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askani:

quote:Ask Arnie (..)
Hah!    windows transvestite!

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You're a m00r0n. It appears you have no ability to read OR write whatsoever. If you had you would have noticed that windows was nowhere on my post.

It would appear that in your "holier than god" crusade against Windows, you would screw (for lack of a better description) the first OS to make a pass at you, namely Linux. Notice that I never dissed on Linux, except maybe Slackware which is really hitting rock bottom. If you haven't used BSD, trust someone who knows Unix better than most of you. Linux is not God, it's not even close as far as OSes go. So get over yourself already!!

As for trc3, you should start f*cking learning command line cause it's gonna be your bread an butter in Un*x. Otherwise go back to Windows. Nobody will blame you. You might wanna try reinstalling your BSD and making sure to select all of the packages having to do with X (you might wanna try installing everything).

Otherwise, you already got all the advice you need. That and make sure to find a quicker way to configure your system. I seem to recall this program called webmin which allowed you to do either remote admin or just regular admin through a web interface. That's all, just holler if you need anymore advice.

MikeU:
hmm...
I'm not sure how far you got, but you have to make sure you have XFree86 installed.  Preferabley 4.*.  Which comes in the ports collection.

in:
/usr/ports/X11/Xfree86  ( i think that's it )

you can do a
make; make install;

or you can put the install cd in your drive and type:
/stand/sysinstall

choose the add packages option, then you can add Xfree86 and KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker, enlightenment, etc...

I'm not sure about the others, but I use KDE, you need kdebase installed if you want to run kde.

also, you need xwrapper installed, if you want to use X windows with a user other than root.

/usr/ports/X11/wrapper
do a:
make; make install;

I'll say how to start kde, because that's what I use, I don't know how to set it up to use gnome.  You should go to the FreeBSD website, and read the hand book for more details.

but for KDE...
once you have xfree86, xwrapper, and kdebase installed.  

configure xfree86, there's a script to do this, just type:
xf86config

at the prompt, and choose all the necessary options.  The script always gets my mouse wrong, I'm guessing it's because it's usb.  But just edit the file:
/etc/X11/XF86Config

I have my mouse protocol at "Auto"
I'm currently on windows cuz i was watching a DVD earlier, so I don't know the exact syntax.

  Option "Protocol" "Auto"
  Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"  # for mouse wheel

once you get Xfree86 configured though, make a file called .xinitrc in your home director ( aka ~ ) and put the following line in it:
startkde

then just type:
startx

it should work...

But if not, ask questions to the freeBSD mailing lists, available at their web site.  Whenever I have a question I just email the mailing list, and I usually get a reply pretty fast.

If what i typed is like giberish, sorry, I've been up for the past 19 hours.

Good luck,
Mike

MikeU:
As I read over my post, I thought something I said might have been a little ambiguous.

xfree86 3.* comes standard with FreeBSD4.5, but 3.* sucks, I was only able to get 256 colors out of it.  So make sure you install xfree86 4.1.* that comes in the ports collection.

/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4

I'm not an expert on xfree86, so I'm not exactly sure what packages are necessary, but if you have enough hard drive space, like me, I just installed all the packages that started with XFree86-4* ( ie: XFree86-4-clients,-documents,-libraries,-manuals, etc etc )

also, you can check to see what packages you already have installed by typing:
pkg_info

if the list is too long, press scroll lock, and use the arrows to move up or down, and then press scroll lock to get back to the prompt.

if the list is still to long, type:
pkg_info | more

that will make it so you can just press enter to see the next line.

Good luck again.
Mike U

P.S. IMO Microkernels > Monolithic Kernels.
IE: FreeBSD > Linux
Reguardless what Linus Torvalds says.

Calum:

quote:Originally posted by askani:
You're a m00r0n.
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and you're a cunt.  
quote:It appears you have no ability to read OR write whatsoever.
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you called me a whore, i called you a transvestite, get a grip, cunt!          
quote:If you had you would have noticed that windows was nowhere on my post.
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it doesn't matter if it was! you insulted me, i insulted you, now we're even, get fucked!    :D  
   
quote:
It would appear that in your "holier than god" crusade against Windows, you would screw (for lack of a better description) the first OS to make a pass at you, namely Linux.
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My religion allows for many gods, i appreciate that you elaborated on your "whores" comment, but i think you are making some simplistic and exclusionist assumptions about many of the posters on this board.    
quote:Notice that I never dissed on Linux, except maybe Slackware which is really hitting rock bottom.
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who cares? dis linux all you want, but start dissing me, and i'll dis right back, dumbass!    
quote:If you haven't used BSD, trust someone who knows Unix better than most of you.
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My trust is in your hands oh guru of unix, oh god of command lines, grow up! This "my unix is better than your unix" problem has been recurrent in the history of unix and is one of the reasons that there are so many variants. (yes, i know all about proprietary licences and different hardware architectures before you start)    
quote:Linux is not God,
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i feel sorry for you with that religious hangup, were you buttfucked by nuns as a child perhaps?    
quote:it's not even close as far as OSes go.
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right so what you're saying is that nobody should use a piece of software till it's completely perfect? well how's that going to happen if people don't use/talk about the software in question?    
quote:So get over yourself already!!
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my thoughts exactly.

   
quote:As for trc3, you should start f*cking learning command line cause it's gonna be your bread an butter in Un*x. Otherwise go back to Windows. Nobody will blame you.
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i would    :D      
quote:You might wanna try reinstalling your BSD and making sure to select all of the packages having to do with X (you might wanna try installing everything).

Otherwise, you already got all the advice you need. That and make sure to find a quicker way to configure your system. I seem to recall this program called webmin which allowed you to do either remote admin or just regular admin through a web interface. That's all, just holler if you need anymore advice.
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FINALLY!!!
When i answered originally, i said a couple of sentences to start the ball rolling, then i said does anybody else have some info. It has taken 16 posts to actually get these few scant words of genuine advice from somebody. My honest thanks, AskArnie, for that, because as you imply (but never actually said, your words being too full of self righteous drivel), this topic has been far too full of "why not just get linux" responses.
With that mentality, people, a lot of "how do you use linux" questions would have been answered with "why don't you just use windows?" instead of the helpful answers we often see on these pages.
AskArnie, while i appreciate that you might know tons about unix, and i might not know that much, it does not amount to beans unless you stop insulting people and get on with initiating us all on your holy unix secrets.

I look forward to reading your posts.

[ April 21, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

askani:
Ok, OK. I got it. But pease stop with the name calling. It tends to get annoying really quick.
 
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