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What needs to be done about Linux
Faust:
Already been posted, but heres more. Its in devel. That said read flaps post, we can already play dvds we legally own so who cares about some propreitary pos? It's not like we're murdering kiddies or commiting "vile piracy" by playing our own legally bought dvds with free software.
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-04-04-007-04-NW
quote:Problem #1 - The explosive pace of Linux development makes it difficult for end-users to stay put.
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You dont actually have to upgrade you know...
quote:If there was a desktop Linux distribution that followed this model
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To me, Debian is a desktop distro. :) Go try it, you might be pleased, although I will also admit it has a long way to go before it becomes a *popular* desktop distro... the installer is obviously ugly as hell, altho at least the module selection part is rumoured to be getting easier soon.
quote:Problem #2 - No easy way to install programs, especially 3rd party programs.
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true, i love apt get but typing / synaptic / other isn't for everyone.
Everything else I definitely agree with, thanks for the post LU.
quote:Of course I don't know this for a fact but that is how I forsee it happening.
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FUD hazy, check back later sayeth the mystical eight ball. :-P :-P :-P
quote:I say that the desktop is best left to Mac OS X.
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The desktop isn't going to be "left" to anyone. If you are saying that the competition should leave Apple alone then what are you scared of? :-P Apple is a company, and companies can go bankrupt. Unless you can disillusion every single geek then Free Software will never die. Neither will the Linux kernel unless it's replaced by something better in the eyes of the Free Software community, cos without marketing it's survival of the best. Eventually we will win. Sorry, we can wait decades if need be but we can't go bankrupt or die like any company pushing proprietary software can, and all companies die given enough time. :)
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by evil fucking bastard jimmy james:
No... it ISN'T.
BeOS has some POSIX compliance, but it was built new from the ground up. Be OS has a whole hella lot more in common with Mac OS 9 than it does any of the UNIX clones.
It might use a UNIXesque kernel,
I don't have time to finish this. I win
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Did you ever use UNIX?
From their own user website.
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Is BeOS similar to Unix? Is there a GUI and command line, is it multiuser, etc.?
The BeOS was influenced by a number of operating systems, and Unix is certainly among them. To be very general about it, you might say that the BeOS is more similar to Unix at the lower levels and more like the Mac OS or Windows at the higher levels. There is a GUI and a command line interface. The BeOS is not currently multiuser in the Unix sense.
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Like I said: The lower levels are UNIX based.
quote:The desktop isn't going to be "left" to anyone. If you are saying that the competition should leave Apple alone then what are you scared of? :-P Apple is a company, and companies can go bankrupt. Unless you can disillusion every single geek then Free Software will never die. Neither will the Linux kernel unless it's replaced by something better in the eyes of the Free Software community, cos without marketing it's survival of the best. Eventually we will win. Sorry, we can wait decades if need be but we can't go bankrupt or die like any company pushing proprietary software can, and all companies die given enough time. :)
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I coudn't agree more.
[ November 23, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]
preacher:
quote:Originally posted by Faust:
Already been posted, but heres more. Its in devel. That said read flaps post, we can already play dvds we legally own so who cares about some propreitary pos? It's not like we're murdering kiddies or commiting "vile piracy" by playing our own legally bought dvds with free software.
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-04-04-007-04-NW
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Ok Faust and Xeen you obviously didnt actually read the links for LinDVD. Here is a quote from the website.
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Can I get a copy of LinDVD?
LinDVD, InterVideo's Linux software DVD player, is currently available only to manufacturers for evaluation and integration.
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So is there a way to play DVD's legally in linux?
NO!!!!!
As for the comment from M. O'brien about xine not needing DeCSS, this is true, however no legal content descrambling software is available for linux. Here is a quote from http://dvd.sourceforge.net/xine-howto/en_GB/html/howto-5.html
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DVD support in xine is a little complex due to the uncertain legal situation regarding software capable of decoding DVDs encrypted with the Content Scrambling System (CSS). If you wish to just watch un-encrypted DVDs with no support for menus, title selection or multiple-angles, the bundled xine DVD plugin will suffice. In general, however, most DVDs are encrypted and most people want support for the more advanced features.
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insomnia:
Who cares about those absurt rules.
Ignore them.
As far as I'm concerned they don't exist.
Faust:
quote:Originally posted by Preacher:
Ok Faust and Xeen you obviously didnt actually read the links for LinDVD. Here is a quote from the website.
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quote:Originally posted by Faust:
Its in devel.
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:-P
[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
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