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Calum:
look, unix is almost as proprietary as windows, and so are a lot of unix-alikes. macOSX is a unix-alike system where they have taken as much Free code as possible and basically kept it as proprietary as possible. microsoft had the cheek to pinch the TCP/IP stack from *BSD for winNT, but apple stole an entire operating system! apple are a much more proprietary company than microsoft and the only people rally round them is their "radical" stylish "vision" and the fact that in the marketplace they are the underdog (compared with windows).

i don't give a fuck what software you use, but you cannot be so proprietary and elitist and reap the benefits of Free software. it should not be allowed. apple are treading the very edge of that boundary and i for one wish they would fuck off back on their own side of the line or get shot for trespassing (metaphorically).

Yes they make great stuff, yes they have style, but they're taking the piss out of open source software when they should be tackling their competition, other software companies. bunch of cowards.

and who cares where that advert was? i often see adverts for "microsoft exchange server" and shit on linux websites. if microsoft are stupid enough to pay for those adverts, i would like to think people are clever enough to ignore them, and the same goes for apple, except that what makes me angry is that they are clever enough that people will actually be taken in.

I feel highly annoyed that apple would condescend to insult linux users in a linux magazine!

and you people wonder why i get annoyed at apple! well if you can't see it on your own, i can't tell you.

edit: and that screenshot looks more like GNOME 2 to me, just to keep this on topic (something nobody has EVER been concerned about in these forums EVER before).

[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: crusader for peace & freedom ]

Doogee:
Mac is meant to be some kind of god of open source or something, all it seems to me is that they are feeding off us.

Look at us we are apple we get all the great and free open source software, and pile it all in an easy to use, good looking proprietary system.

We gave back some khtml crap.

Apple is fscked, i still want one, osx looks great and all, but they are feeding of the open source community.


Thats just my view, flame on  

Faust:
my mind is being more and more swayed to the view that Apple has used us...  :(
now most if not all free software will run on macs due to the unix base.
looking at what we could get in return how great would it be to have apple software run on nix systems?  how cool would it be for apple to actually release an open source "emulator" similar to WINE that could run all mac programs? we would get a lot of new good programs eg : games.
yet how likely is it to happen?
apple has doubled the amount of programs that can run on its OS.
in return they still dont want any mac OS programs running on linux...
i feel betrayed.  :(

Calum:
good thinking. nice to see something other than mac arse licking on here.

it would indeed be nice if apple put any effort at all into making even one of their most run of the mill programs that already runs in windows (quicktime) available for *nix platforms, but no.

Faust:
yeah making mac programs portable to linux would be cool.  it would mean that by supporting either MS competitior you supported all MS competition. (eg good gesture of solidarity)
by making each OS's programs "interoperable" then their would be more of a solid/united front presented.
note : note an anti mac flame, just a thought!

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