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Microsoft admits Linux is worthy rival
Faust:
quote:And how come whenever you hear of some supercybercriminal "hacker" he always turns out to have been using a 486 and have no training?
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486 hackers are 1337. It's the kids with the overclocked AMDs that do the script stuff
quote: firstly, many companies hide their windows network behind *nix gateways,
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According to man nmap queso scans show MS as using BSD routers. :D
quote:Very good point! But about credit card theft, wouldn't that be out of the realm of script kiddies(cracker stuff basically)?
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Finding the original exploit would take reasonable skill. But once it is published on bugtraq/IRC... have you actually seen the windows based cracking tools? All you have to do is fill like 2 fields in, click start and she goes! Half of them have frigging wizards!
[ May 15, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
jtpenrod:
quote:Register open source contacts have insisted for some years now that Microsoft's government and large accounts sales teams have special dispensation - on the highest authority - to block open source deployments at any price; the leaked emails would therefore appear to confirm that they are right. Microsoft is particularly interested in winning and keeping control of UK government and public sector IT systems, and this has bizarre consequences for would-be insurgents.
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Same tactic long known to drug pushers: give 'em enough free tastes, and soon you'll have a customer for life paying the real rate once they're good and hooked.
Crack dealer: WHUDDA wunnerful role-model!
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lazygamer:
quote:uh huh, and you heard that at which microsoft seminar? "oh no, no ten year old script kiddie could possibly topple our oh so secure system, well there may be one or two flaws (rich person style laugh) but the likelihood of a system being compromised by anyone less than an extreme professional is beyond a joke and our developers are making windows more secure every day"
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Sad to say, but this came from my own logic, not from Microsoft propaganda.
I simply assumed that credit card number theft involved at least a little more expertise than using some user friendly windows crasher program.
quote:your point can be answered in two ways. firstly, many companies hide their windows network behind *nix gateways, this makes them secure from anything on the other side of the gateway. So they have windows stuff, but they are shielded by a nice secure *ix. secondly, if they only had windows, no amount of good administration would be able to help them. If your system is full of holes, and it is closed source (ie you cannot fix the holes and recompile it) then you are fucked, that's it, the end.
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Very good point! That is quite smart. So basically you feel that Windows is so insecure, that a properly trained admin, wind0ze patches(assuming their is no *nix shield) and a good firewall, isn't enough to stop most script kiddies? If you do... then I guess I overestimate wind0ze capabilities.
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