Microsoft helps Vim charity

[Kintaro]

http://www.vim.org/

[20-Nov-2002] George Reilly, empoyee at Microsoft, challenged Vim users at Microsoft to raise money for their favorite text editor. They managed to raise $1,375. Microsoft will match that with $1,275, yielding a total of $2,650. You can read the full message here. I am grateful for the Microsoft employees and Microsoft itself to help Vim's charityware concept! More info about Vim's charityware here. (Bram Moolenaar)

[voidmain]

Oh NO! Now I might have to switch to EMACS!  

[Calum]

i think helping charities is a great idea, and it's one of the things i like about vim over emacs.

however i do think that charity donations as a form of public ego stroking are abominable. this sum is a drop in the ocean compared with what microsoft could afford as a company, and also compared with the advertising revenue that this boost may have costed otherwise.

[voidmain]

I think it was an appropriate sum, and appropriate that it come from the employees. If they would have given much more I think it would have drudged up much controversy. This way they lay kinda low and we all get another hint that they use open source apps internally instead of their own crap.  

[preacher]

The real question is whether they are using vim internally on *nix boxes.

[voidmain]

Well, they surely are at hotmail on their BSD boxes. They probably have some *NIX boxes at HQ. And I know they still use some IBM AS/400 machines.

[Calum]

they will have a lot of *nix machines. know your enemy and all that.

even the free software foundation had and probably still have proprietary *nix machines for years even though they are pioneering Free software.

everybody who's anybody in computers uses *nix for something these days.

[ November 27, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

[DC]

/* Behold! It's back! */
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Vim SINNERS, Repent while you can! This is a clear cut of the alignment of Vim with the SATAN GATES!
Save your soul while you still can! Join the Church of EMACS!
I pray for all you Vim users to our saint and prophet, the holy RMS!
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Calum: of course fsf has proprietary *nix boxes. How can they write replacements for the damned stuff if they don't have it?

[voidmain]

Well they certainly don't need, nor have needed proprietary *NIX boxes for quite some time. Whether they do or not I don't know. I would be willing to bet that a few of the mailing lists might have some proprietary NIX boxes in the mix, but only because this type of stuff is so open and hosted by whoever wants to host it. If the UNI has an old Solaris box sitting in the corner doing nothing why not use it as a news archive? Of course they could throw Sparc/Linux on it. The whole point of Free software is it can be used anywhere, even on proprietary systems. If that wasn't the point there wouldn't be a GCC for Sparc/Solaris, for HP-UX, for AIX, for Windows, etc.

[LorKorub]

Man....

I just read this. Horrible news! Vim was my favorite editor.

Oh well, looks like it's apt-get install jove time.

[enigma]

um... whats VIM?

[DC]

quote:Originally posted by Got Root? / Bob:
um... whats VIM?

Vi Improved, a new version of a text editor, Vi, quite popular under Unix users (except under those who use EMACS). Not the most user-friendly at start either.

[Kintaro]

I really dont think it will make vim worse, it was the "Microsoft Employees" who used it. And of cource they use Unix, according to the previous owners of Hotmail the software "Could only work on Unix".

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But they could just change the Open Source code in apache to report as that... Just like voidmain did...

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[Kintaro]

Really we should all save up $12,750 and donate and say From FUCKMICROSOFT

[dbl221]

There is a great book from NewRiders for VIM

"Vi IMproved -- Vim"
ISBN: 0-7357-1001-5

$49.99 USA / $74.95 CAN / 38.99 UK

auther: Steve Oualline
Forward: Bram Moolenaar