Apple and Linux Beneficial to Each Other?

[slave]

If Apple were smart, they would use Linux as a tool to crush Microsoft on the x86 platform.  But perhaps they don't want to do that.  Maybe they like Microsoft because Microsoft has always given them their "niche" in the market.

[slave]

If Apple were smart, they would use Linux as a tool to crush Microsoft on the x86 platform.  But perhaps they don't want to do that.  Maybe they like Microsoft because Microsoft has always given them their "niche" in the market.

[Crunchy(Cracked)Butter]

quote:Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
If Apple were smart, they would use Linux as a tool to crush Microsoft on the x86 platform.  But perhaps they don't want to do that.  Maybe they like Microsoft because Microsoft has always given them their "niche" in the market.

Apple are smart thats why they are doing this, they know Linux at its pace will have tons of windows software running natively on a UNIX platform very soon, apple probably wants some of this, its something Apple cannot do other than by using VPC.

Mind you a benefit of this would be nobody would need to port software to the apple platform!  If everything that runs on windows runs on linux and then runs on Apple whats the point in making different ports?

I don't think Apple are thankful that they have been given their "niche", i think they hate the fact that MS gave them finacial support in 97 because they were nearly bankrupt.  Its Apples own fault they have this niche anyway, had they lowered prices when they were infront (when their OS was superior at a time when windows 1.1 was around) they could of had a larger market share early on.  But they priced themselves out of a market and thus lost out through no fault of their own.

[Pantso]

The core of OS X is Darwin and yes it is Open Source and freely downloadable if that makes any difference. It's also being slowly ported to the x86 platform.

About Quicktime, be patient. You might see it being ported to Linux some time in the near future. I believe that Apple is slowly trying to cut the strings with M$, which is not by any means an easy job.

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]

[Pissed_Macman]

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quote:Originally posted by cahult:
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[preacher]

Its funny how the mac and linux relationship benefits mac users more than linux users. Suddenly mac users can use XFree86 and other *nix applications, but linux users still cant use mac applications. As soon as linux begins to benefit from this by being able to run mac applications, things will be better.

[Calum]

yeah, and it's funny how apple and linux are 'beneficial' to each other so long as apple gets the lion's share of the benefits, isn't that right?
i wonder if we'd have quite so many mac advocates telling us to sit down and shut up if linux was the one benefiting most? of course we wouldn't. they'd all be up in arms about how linux wasn't really open, and apple would be sending their lawyers out on seek and destroy missions.

 

quote:Originally posted by Panos:
About Quicktime, be patient. You might see it being ported to Linux some time in the near future. I believe that Apple is slowly trying to cut the strings with M$, which is not by any means an easy job.

<scoff> easy for you to say. i am sick of waiting for literally years for some vapourware that's coming out 'real soon now', thank you very much.

[Pantso]

The reason I told you to be patient is not because I work for Apple or have any inside information about Quicktime, but rather because I believe that Apple will embrace Open Source more in the future for the benefit of both "parties".

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Panos:
I believe that Apple is slowly trying to cut the strings with M$, which is not by any means an easy job.

Slowly trying to cut strings? Serious understatement. Releasing a web browser, and a counterpart to PowerPoint isn't exactly gradual action.

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by The Muffin Man:


Slowly trying to cut strings? Serious understatement. Releasing a web browser, and a counterpart to PowerPoint isn't exactly gradual action.

Well, it was gradual until the release of Keynote and Safari or maybe wasn't it?   :confused:

[black_angel2]

OK for a start Mac OS X is not opensource. Darwin is, and there is a x86 version (Darwin homepage) you can download it in binary or source form. This is also available over a cvs server.

What is not open source is basically nothing to do with the opensource community. It was all created internally at Apple.

So quite your whinging.

[Crunchy(Cracked)Butter]

Not whining, merely pointing out that anything that is "beneficial" is to Apple only and not Linux.

So read the comments properly butt munch.

[Pantso]

Oh yes, you are whining.      Now, if you want QuickTime in Linux so much (I know I never needed it), then all you have to do is write to Steve Jobs at  [email protected]  and explain your problems. Just joking.    

[ February 03, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]

[Calum]

that's not a joke! are you saying people who require a piece of software should just shut up and go away, accepting anything that they are spoonfed? maybe you should go and buy a nice new copy of windows XP.

Butter has said nothing but the gods' unvarnished 100% truth, so get over it, apploids!  

as for quicktime it's not a matter of needing it (even i have got mplayer + win32dlls to play quicktime files), it's the principle of the situation. it's dissapointing that the posters on this forum of all places cannot see the difference between personal greed and a matter of principle.

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by Calum: Member # 81:
that's not a joke! are you saying people who require a piece of software should just shut up and go away, accepting anything that they are spoonfed? maybe you should go and buy a nice new copy of windows XP.

Butter has said nothing but the gods' unvarnished 100% truth, so get over it, apploids!    

as for quicktime it's not a matter of needing it (even i have got mplayer + win32dlls to play quicktime files), it's the principle of the situation. it's dissapointing that the posters on this forum of all places cannot see the difference between personal greed and a matter of principle.

If I knew that you would take my post so seriously, I wouldn't write it in the first place. As I have replied in a previous post, it is my belief that soon QuickTime will be available for Linux and that's all it is. Just a simple opinion. I don't know if my English is so bad that you cannot understand what I'm trying to say and I'm sorry if my opinion can't get through to you or anyone else here.

I also do not understand how this became all of a sudden a matter of principle to you and to other Linux users in these forums. I'm not here to speak on behalf of Apple. I'm just a very satisfied user of OS X and a long-time user of Linux who has never had similar problems and worries. Jeese, I'm just writing my opinions here and don't have to apologize on behalf of Apple. I really don't know how you got that idea!

PS I don't like being called an apploid, linuxoid or windoid (even worse). That would mean that I'm a shortsighted person, which I definitely am not.