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Don't Ban Opera Users
badkarma:
It seems that you are missing the point because it was just one day a week (on fridays) purely because the webmaster wanted to make a statement, it's not like all IE users were banned from ever visiting the site
Oh, and most people who visit this site are either already "converted" (i.e. mac users ), very much inclined to be "converted" (i.e. they don't come to ask if they should run linux, or buy a mac, they ask how to configure/install it) or are not using an M$ OS. What leaves us are the pro M$ people who are usually idiots with little substance in their arguments as to why they are pro M$
[ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: BadKarma ]
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Kage:
OYeah, we have a few HPUX and Sun boxes in the back as part of a test LAN, but we cannot hook them up to the NIPRNET, as it is against DISA regulations, and they will drop out the whole building. There is NO case to getting something different, no matter what you might say.
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Where can I get a copy of the DISA regulations? I would like to read them. And I would also like to know who and how the regulations are brought about. Are you telling me they will allow you to hook up a Win* machine to your NIPRNET but not a Sun or HP box?
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Kage:
What purpose does that serve? Not much, other than pissing them off and making the anti-MS movement look like a bunch of egotistical assholes. (Much like the rep for most nix admins =[)
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Hey, I resemble that remark!
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Calum:
did you notice that on the DoJ site, it's all Adobe PDF files? pretty good start...
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Well, I hate PDF files almost as much as I hate DOC files. If it ain't an IRS 1040 form their's no reason it can't just be HTML.
Centurian:
Hey,
I would have posted to this much sooner but I have not been reading this thread recently. My apologies.
Kage,
When I was in the navy way back in the 70's I started out as an e3 and moved up to e5 only to be busted back to e4 for insubbordination then busted again to e3 for fighting. Also I was a plane captain and LSE (Landing Signalman Enlisted). I was very good as an LSE to the point that during bad weather the pilots reguested me as their LSE even though most other LSE's outranked me. They would even go so far as to ask my opinion as to how well they made a particular landing on many occasions.
During my time in the military on 9 different occasions I saw flaws on the system. Each time I went to my immediate supervisor with my suggestion. In all 9 cases I eventually discussed the situation with my Commanding Officer. 8 of those 9 flaws that I found were eventually changed.
Ok so I sucked as a military man. Following orders was/is not my best suite. Still those in command listened to what I had to say and most of the changes I initiated were implemented.
They say millitary intelligence is an oxymoron. I found that not to be true. Those in command are more than willing to make changes if you can show good and reasonable reasons why those changes should be made.
You as an IT Officer almost certainly will outrank my e3 status when I was in. The higher rank you are the more likely they are to listen to you. I am not saying that your suggestions will happen overnight but when you are qualified and very good at a specific job your superiors will listen to your arguments. They may or may not agree but they will listen. If you honestly believe a change should be made then take the initiative, grab your balls and just do it. If on the other hand you don't believe a change should be made then let it slide.
quote:Originally posted by Kage:
Once again, you are missing the point Void. You may consider it being a pussy, but it just DOES NOT WORK. You have to understand that the specific command I am at, where I am an IT OFFICER, we do not get to dictate the state of our machines. Yeah, we have a few HPUX and Sun boxes in the back as part of a test LAN, but we cannot hook them up to the NIPRNET, as it is against DISA regulations, and they will drop out the whole building. There is NO case to getting something different, no matter what you might say.
The military is too broad to make a sweeping gesture such as yours.
The fact remains it is rather silly to attempt to ban IE users from the site. Some people really do HAVE to use it.
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