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voidmain:
I'm not good at reading minds. Can you explain to me in a little more detail about the three items you list? And I'm not the greatest in World affairs, this is the first I've heard that the US is responsible for the existence of the Taliban and provided support for the Taliban. Hmm, tell me more.
[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
voidmain:
Calum, I would like nothing better than to walk around in a bubble, only being concerned with what happens inside the US. For the most part, that is how the lives of most Americans go. So when 9-11 happened 99% of American's say "why", "how", "I've got nothing against anybody, why do people hate us so much". When you say "Americans" you really don't *mean* Americans. And I just used bin laden as an example. Are you going to now tell me that Iraq never sponsored terrorist organizations and never had terrorist training camps within their borders? I think a little more research needs to be done.
KernelPanic:
This is exactly why I said we shouldnt engage in political discussion....
1) Lesson: Always listen to me
flap:
The U.S. in 1979 started funding the religious schools that produced the fundamentalists who went on to comprise the Taliban. Many Al-Qaeda members were actually trained by the US - on US soil.
Read this
quote:The al-Qaeda training camps are kindergartens compared with the world's leading university of terrorism at Fort Benning in Georgia. Known until recently as the School of the Americas, its graduates include almost half the cabinet ministers of the genocidal regimes in Guatemala, two thirds of the El Salvadorean army officers who committed, according to the United Nations, the worst atrocities of that country's civil war, and the head of Pinochet's secret police, who ran Chile's concentration camps.
--- End quote ---
Go U.S.A!
voidmain:
I tried like hell to stay out of this thread and I wish like hell politics would stay out of these forums because it detracts from my main concern of eradicating M$. But you have drawn me into it.
So I suppose what would make you happy is if someone were to invade your country, and you were to ask for help from the US then the US should stand idly by? I tell you, it would suit me just fine if we didn't have to help other countries in need and have the piece of mind to know that other countries wouldn't fuck with the U.S. You know, just build a giant steel bubble that doesn't allow anything in or out. Yeah, sounds like a perfect solution to me. Well sorry, it isn't that easy. People ask for help you help. If security is threatened you have to do something about it.
It's easy to say "stop meddling in other people's business" until you need help yourself. And it's easy to think that people aren't deranged enough to fly an airplane into a building targeting civilians that have absolutely no clue as to why they are being murdered. When the US went in and helped Kuwait out, did they target Iraqi civilians? If I remember correctly (since I was there my memory is pretty good) great pains were taken to minimize civilian casualties.
At least one guy has his head on straight, a clip from the same web site:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12168848&method=full&siteid=50143
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