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psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by VoidMain:
Good! You should be watching FOX News and listening to Rush Limbaugh.
--- End quote ---
I'm not a fan of eather. Weather you lean to the right, or lean to the left you should get your news from Reuters, or the AP.
They are probably the last remaining unbiased news sources out there.
I mean, FOX news is soooo slanted it's sick. It's like I'm watching a Right Wing white bread back scratching party.
CNN is a bunch of shit, it' so sensational now adays, they don't have any slant except for that which ups their rateings.
MSNBC is pure crap. Nothing good comes from there.
I get my news on the AP.
voidmain:
Well flap is only 15 (from what I remember of his profile before he closed it up). But that doesn't mean there aren't smart 15 year olds, heck my daughter is a smart 14 year old. But they have the disadvantage of not experiencing first hand events that many of the rest of us have experienced. And because of that they get what they know from history lessons taught in school.
Now from what I have seen many schools tend to be more liberal than conservative and there has been a lot of extremely idiotic liberal thing happening in a lot of schools in the news that just go against all of my morals. However, I won't get into that, schools are great but I wonder if they are teaching the "impartial" history as well as they could.
Now having said that I don't claim to be a member of any party. But in the last 20 years if I had to choose it would be today's republican party. Mainly because my beliefs fall in line with what today's republican party "claim" to believe in and care about (more than 20-30+ years ago I would probably claimed to be a Democrat as the parties have nearly flip flopped in that amount of time). I come from a background of high morals and high family values. If the Democrats start making sense and say things I agree with them I'll go with them.
I thought Reagan was a great president. I thought Bush(1) really cared and tried to do the right things. Then when it came time for reelection Clinton and Perot entered the race. Now I thought Bush(1) was good (and I went to war with him) but economics appeared to be the bigger issue at the moment and I am going to make myself look really stupid here but I liked what I heard from Perot when it came to economics. Who would know more about bringing the country out of debt than a Billionaire?
I absolutely despised Clinton and every time he talked I couldn't help but think he was lying through his teeth (little did I know he would be accused of that more than once, and in court). And being admitted draft dodger didn't give me great assurance that he would be an acceptable "Commander in Chief" (I don't know if I could have gone to war with him as the leader as I *would* have been suspicious of the reasons with him in charge).
So I was left with a decision between Bush(1) and Perot. Now many of us got together and did much discussion about Perot and Bush(1) and convinced each other to vote for him. Turned out it was a big mistake. I believe if Perot had not run, Bush(1) would have been a two term president. Instead, Clinton was elected as what has to be one of the most embarrassing presidents I have ever seen. Then I began to wonder if I was insane when he was reelected. I didn't think it was remotely possible. Somebody isn't getting the same information I am or I'm just a complete fucking idiot (many of you might think the latter).
Now Bush(2) is much like his father when it comes to morals and patriotism. I like that. I do believe that his father was a better president to this point, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and see how the rest of his term goes. I can say that I believe we are in far better shape with him than we would have been with Clinton or Gore. You can speculate all you want but there's not much of a way to prove anything.
Now, obviously I am wasting my time typing this because everyone gets their information from different places, has their own views, their own beliefs, their own values, etc etc etc. Some of you are going to call me ignorant, some may even agree with me. So what's the point? I'm just giving you some of what *I* believe in and what is important to *me*, and it makes me feel better. It certainly won't change anyone's minds..
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by psyjax:
I'm not a fan of eather. Weather you lean to the right, or lean to the left you should get your news from Reuters, or the AP.
They are probably the last remaining unbiased news sources out there.
I mean, FOX news is soooo slanted it's sick. It's like I'm watching a Right Wing white bread back scratching party.
CNN is a bunch of shit, it' so sensational now adays, they don't have any slant except for that which ups their rateings.
MSNBC is pure crap. Nothing good comes from there.
I get my news on the AP.
--- End quote ---
I do agree with you. I also happen to like FOX and Limbaugh for pure entertainment. Some things they say I really disagree with and their extreme bias in some areas almost make me sick, but I do slant more toward the right now so I like most of what they have to say. They are *heavily* right wing slanted. I also believe CNN is somewhat left wing slanted and MSNBC is heavily left wing slanted. AP is nuetral as you say, but boring. Still best for facts. The networks just put their biased spin on things.
Now one thing that blew my mind was when Geraldo Rivera switched to FOX. It was like being invaded by the anti-christ. I still don't understand how that one came about. He was *extremely* liberally biased on his previous show, and then to switch to FOX was beyond belief. I think he has been noticably neutral since the move and may just be a better news person than he ever has been because of it.
[ September 04, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
flap:
I'm 21 actually, and deeply disturbed by the content of that last post.
Bush a good president? Reagan?? Sorry if I missed the joke somewhere.
Although I have one question - if you're such a fan of these right-wing 'values' what are you doing supporting free software; an entirely left wing idea?
voidmain:
If you think OSS is a "left wing idea" you are surely disturbed. Ah, 21, college age, even *more* likely to be exposed to left wing bias. Do you have your escape route to Canada planned? You could use the same one Clinton used if you like...
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