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rtgwbmsr:
If the US does go to war with Iraq, I'm goin to Sweden...fuck this...the odds of me being spontaneously killed are too fucking high here. Crime + Terrorism + Misc countries US pissed off. The odds of me being in the direct vicinity of the WTC on that Tuesday were extremely high...too high for comfort.

-"Muffin"

psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by Tux:
The 'american empire' is indeed in it's closing stages. It happens to them all...
--- End quote ---


Romans lasted for more than 1000 years. America has been around 200, it's still got some life left in it.

Livy said that the downfall of Roman society was it;s abandonment of it's founders ideals and the embrace of a hedonistic and decadent lifestyle.

Live lived a few centuries before Romes colapse, and the society was so decadent that it partied for about 350 days out of the year. No one had to work, it was all slave labor and indulgance. Heck, after 10 years even the slaves didn't have to do shit.

Anyway, I don't think the USA has gotten to that point quite yet. Some people would acuse us of such (and sometimes I even belive it) but the fact is, that we embrace all of the ideals which Livy recognisied as those which keped a society alive. We have our ups and downs, but we'll survive for a good long while.

Hell, listend to me, and I don't even consider myself a total patriot  :D

Bazoukas:
The thing that will cripple USA is if they close their borders.

 No i dont believe that every immigrant that comes here is a Saint. But the majority of immigrants work their ass so hard, that in their life time they achieve so much that it just drops your jaw.

 And most of all, since USA is The SuperPower, it needs immigrants, so it wont lose track of reality on whats going on around the world. Immigrants help this country to  keep its feet grounded and not wonder up in the clouds like an L.A supermodel.


   And  I also strongly believe that USA will close the show on what is so far known as "Empire."
   We are not that far from earth being ONE country. Look what is going on. Europe has the Euro which almost has the same value as the Dollar. Global economy (internet and so on). English is the Universal language. Period.

  I think in about 100 years earth will be on the same stage as Europe is right now. Droping down its borders and trying to be one.

choasforages:
ummm, light bulb bomb, discredit that one?. ever taken a wet napkin and put it on a blacklight, or just spit on a hot one?. POP, and it glows and smoke pours out for 2 seconds before it burns out. thats why i only have one blacklight left.

as for voidmain talking about age, comeone, im only 15. and i try to learn about past mistakes, i mean, having a dad that worked in mumitions during veitnam/*no he didn't kill people, he loaded bombs onto planes so the plane could go kill people*/ i hear alot about the kinda shit that the US government trys to pull. and since he works for the government now, i here alot from him. and for fox news, better then cnn, atleast there funny in the morning.

voidmain:
You are correct about there being many political mistakes in Vietnam and you are lucky to have a dad who can tell you the "true" story.  Have you ever been taught things in school about it that maybe your dad would disagree with? I was fortunate enough to have been part of a war where we were able to take the lessons learned in Vietnam and not make the same ones twice.  

I also happened to work with some people there who also served in Vietnam and they had me scared shitless before the shit hit the fan and things actually started happening on Jan 17th. And I was scared shitless for quite some time after that day.  Scuds coming in, planes coming in shot up and crashing around us, etc... I knew a couple of the pilots that we lost and a couple who were taken POW. But it certainly could have been much worse.  

Fortunately because of the mistakes learned from Vietnam we didn't have the political strings tied to us like in Vietnam (except for maybe taking that one last step that may have prevented the problem that we have today).

I can tell you that I deeply admire your dad and everyone else who had to go through that ordeal, and you should too. In a way, he saved my ass. It wasn't the greatest time in our history but hopefully we can continue to learn great lessons from it.

[ September 04, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]

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