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"serial sniper"
voidmain:
No, this is a crime by a lunatic that happens to involve a gun, not a gun control issue. Just the other day someone drove their pickup through a crowd of people killing them. Where's the "truck control" issue?
No news channel or newspaper I have read on the subject has mentioned a *single* connection to the "war on terror". Nada. It appears to be one person, using the same gun in every case.
This is not a new concept. There have been several serial killers in the past. The last big one I recall was the guy lured boys to his house, had sex with them, killed them (not with a gun), then ate some of them and stored many of them in his refridgerator. When people are fucked in the head and want to kill, they are going to kill. Like the Boston Strangler, etc, etc..
And what about the mailbox bomber? Seems to me that making a pipe bomb is already illegal. That should have stopped him right there right?
[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by void main:
No, this is a crime by a lunatic that happens to involve a gun, not a gun control issue. Just the other day someone drove their pickup through a crowd of people killing them. Where's the "truck control" issue?
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while you might think i am being funny here, i agree, truck control should indeed be tighter regulated. In this country anyway, driving laws are poor and are upheld badly, resulting in many more deaths and injuries than are really necessary.
quote:No news channel or newspaper I have read on the subject has mentioned a *single* connection to the "war on terror". Nada. It appears to be one person, using the same gun in every case.
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in that case i am very happy. Not about the gunperson, but about the non-'war' thing.
voidmain:
And your truck control example is a good example. But it doesn't work when people blatently break those laws in order to kill someone. No amount of truck control will prevent road rage (road rage may only be an American thing).
A justified argument for gun control is one similar to your truck example. Laws that make sure legal gun owners keep there gun in a locked safe so kids can't accidentally get into them and play cowboys and indians thinking they have a toy gun. Of course if a kid's dad breaks the law and leaves his gun out a kid could still die playing with it.
This example is a clear case of someone breaking the law. Last time I checked murder is against our laws. People who break the law will get a gun anyway. I hate for the day to come that only the criminals in our country are allowed to carry a gun.
I don't have any stats on this at my fingertips but I believe this would have been argued in the past. Without looking at those arguments in my mind it is logical if the posession of a firearm is legal, then a robber would think twice before breaking an entering a residence. If owning a gun is illegal, it's open game in the city for robbery. And just for your information, I haven't owned a gun in 20 years but I am *totally* against banning them. Let's say a robber has two houses to choose from to rob. He knows one house is owned by a person who owns a gun and he knows the second house is owned by a person who doesn't have a gun. Which one would *you* rob? Sure, the one with the most loot, I know...
Sure most robbers are dumb and won't think about this and rob anyway but some may think twice. And this is only one example of my feelings on the protection part of it. Hell, not only should it be *mandatory* that everyone have a gun (semi-joking on this one) but gun safety classes should be mandatory by all ages so the kids know the difference between a real gun and a play gun, and they will know what kind of damage a real gun can cause.
I also believe I should be allowed to hunt with a gun. I grew up on a farm. I started hunting when I was a child. Many of my friends hunted. We were taught *strict* gun safety before we were allowed to carry a gun safely.
I tell you what should be outlawed. It's those sub 10 second crotch rockets all the 18 year old kids are riding around on at 150mph in a pair of shorts and no helmet with their girl friends on the back. And I'm an avid motorcyclist.
[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
lazygamer:
quote:it is in no way 'neat' or 'cool' or anything of the sort.
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Oh goddammit, I can't help it if I think like Beavis and Butthead! ;)
preacher:
Why is it that everytime someone gets shot, people would rather talk about banning guns than catching the fucker who is shooting people. This one might be a serial killer. I mean how many others would kill this many people. Hes obviously not a hitman since hes killing children and seemingly random people. I dont think a gangbanger would kill like this either. Are all the victims black, or other ethnic groups than white? Maybe he's a racial extremist. I looked up similar cases in the past and this is what I found.
http://blackwaterusa.com/btw/articles/sniper1.html
In this case the which seems similar, the suspect was a gun enthusiast with a criminal record. He was described to be more of a serial killer.
http://massmurder.dyns.net/charles_whitman.htm
This is a bit of an older case, but this time the killings were performed by a seemingly normal person. He had no criminal record, but a brain tumor was believed to be effecting his mind.
http://enquirer.com/editions/1997/04/17/loc_franklin.html
In this case the killer was racially motivated and his killing spree went on for years.
Whatever the case I think they need to get this one quick.
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