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Master of Reality:

quote:Originally posted by Calum:
right. several things.

this shooting is sick and deserves a really nasty punishment.

this will get turned into a 'war on terrorism' issue, if it possibly can

this IS a gun control issue, whether you choose to ignore that fact or not

it is in no way 'neat' or 'cool' or anything of the sort.

Also, how do you know that these shootings are the same guy if they haven't caught him? might be some weird cult all killing different people at arranged times... i heard that there were several different weapons involved (but that several of the killings had been made using the same gun).
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You can tell if bullets came from the same gun by the markings on the bullet. It is highly unlikely that two guns would place the exact same markings on a bullet. I heard that there was 8 killings with the same rifle and therefore would most likely be the same person.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: The Master of Reality / Bob ]

psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by void main:
We need Rush Limbaugh for president and Zombie for vice president. That'll straighten them out!

Seriously, I agree completely with your views on this Zombie.
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Ahh the jaged wing on your right shoulderblade is spread wide.

While I calmly fold up both my moderate wings.

Or something metaporical like that  :D

Master of Reality:

quote:Originally posted by void main:
And your truck control example is a good example. But it doesn't work when people blatently break those laws in order to kill someone. No amount of truck control will prevent road rage (road rage may only be an American thing).

A justified argument for gun control is one similar to your truck example. Laws that make sure legal gun owners keep there gun in a locked safe so kids can't accidentally get into them and play cowboys and indians thinking they have a toy gun. Of course if a kid's dad breaks the law and leaves his gun out a kid could still die playing with it.

This example is a clear case of someone breaking the law. Last time I checked murder is against our laws. People who break the law will get a gun anyway. I hate for the day to come that only the criminals in our country are allowed to carry a gun.

I don't have any stats on this at my fingertips but I believe this would have been argued in the past. Without looking at those arguments in my mind it is logical if the posession of a firearm is legal, then a robber would think twice before breaking an entering a residence. If owning a gun is illegal, it's open game in the city for robbery. And just for your information, I haven't owned a gun in 20 years but I am *totally* against banning them. Let's say a robber has two houses to choose from to rob. He knows one house is owned by a person who owns a gun and he knows the second house is owned by a person who doesn't have a gun. Which one would *you* rob? Sure, the one with the most loot, I know...

Sure most robbers are dumb and won't think about this and rob anyway but some may think twice. And this is only one example of my feelings on the protection part of it. Hell, not only should it be *mandatory* that everyone have a gun (semi-joking on this one) but gun safety classes should be mandatory by all ages so the kids know the difference between a real gun and a play gun, and they will know what kind of damage a real gun can cause.

I also believe I should be allowed to hunt with a gun. I grew up on a farm. I started hunting when I was a child. Many of my friends hunted. We were taught *strict* gun safety before we were allowed to carry a gun safely.

I tell you what should be outlawed. It's those sub 10 second crotch rockets all the 18 year old kids are riding around on at 150mph in a pair of shorts and no helmet with their girl friends on the back. And I'm an avid motorcyclist.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Up here it is mandatory to take a 3 day course and a written and practical test (for safety) and then have a background check and some goverment person needs to talk to someone who knows you well before they will give you a PAL (Possesion and Aquisition License) for firearms.
You also need to take a 3 day hunter safety course and take a written and practical test to get your outdoors card (hunting license). You must get over 80% on all the tests and if you get any of the first ten questions wrong you automatically fail because they involve major safety issues.

And most gun related deaths are by suicide anyway i think its about 80%. But then again even when a pig (cop) kills someone it is called a homiced so it is really about 83% suicide. I cant remember what percent is by accident and homicide.

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by void main:
We need Rush Limbaugh for president and Zombie for vice president. That'll straighten them out!

Seriously, I agree completely with your views on this Zombie.
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You know who is to blame for alot of our freedom being stripped from us....like being able to own a gun, like making alcohol more illegal everyday, like trying to make tobaccoo prices outrageous(they already are), etc.? Alot of the stuff can be blamed on those fat swines in women prostesting groups(the ones who cry fould about guns and shit), faggot lover groups(who also cry foul about stupid stuff), and of course the government who caves into these groups.

Another thing that pisses me off about this country anymore is the hate crime and discrimination laws. I'm not a racist or anything, but it burns my britches knowing that if a white person beats up a black person it is called a hate crime and battery but if a black beats up a white it is just battery and nothing more. At work, a white person can be a hard worker and mess up one time and will get fired on the spot whereas members of other races can screw up constantly, be lazy, etc. and not get fired because the job knows they will cry that the job is discriminating them. Other races think it is ok to say bad things about white people, they call us honkeys, rednecks, hillbillies, crackers, etc. even in thier music and the media says nothing about it...but if a white person says anything slang about another race in a song the media cries foul that it shouldn't be on an album and it gets yanked from the shelves.

The way it is nowadays in America, Caucasions are the most discriminated race there is. That is no bullshit either.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

Master of Reality:
i believe that... equal rights my ass.

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