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silentwarrior:
Wow..killing innocent does not affact US mids...but rescuing 7 POWs makes them so proud that they make breaking news for it...haha..shame on US..haha...

zoolooo:
German propaganda trends from 1938 to 1945

"We've won the war"

"We will win the war"

"We must win the war"

Point 2 has been reached.

zooloo

silentwarrior:
may be US is "about to win war" but worst thing is US is losing image in other countries by declaring wars...

cahult:
Well, the military war is already won by the so called coalition but I

SpeeDFreaK:
You know what's really funny? Listening to people who are utterly convinced the United States will win this war quickly and cleanly. In my sociology class, this one girl who if I remember correctly, has had previous military experience, believes that when the  US surrounds Baghdad on all sides, they will go French and throw down their guns. I kept my mouth shut because I didn't want to keep her going, but DAMN! She sounded so sure that they would be so scared shiatless they would just give up. It was like watching that pentagon press briefing a few days ago and the spokeswoman sounded so sure of herself:

 
quote: Q: For the general. You had said you'd seen a very significant weakening of the Iraqi Republican Guard. And then you also said that once you take the system, that whole system starts to go down. That sort of echoes what a senior defense official was saying earlier today in Doha, Qatar; he was saying that he senses a tipping point -- they sense a tipping point in Basra and Nasiriyah, and once that comes, it all starts to spread.

Do you actually -- is this a beginning of a tipping point?

McChrystal: Ma'am, I couldn't say that I see a tipping point, but we clearly look for that. That's true in units, it's true in places like Basra and an-Nasiriyah. And that's what we're working towards.

Q: But is the -- you were -- elaborate a little bit on that very significant weakening of the Iraqi Republican Guard. Is this reaching a tipping point there?

McChrystal: Yes, ma'am, we see some very significant weakening, and it will hit a tipping point in some of their formations.

Clarke: I would just go back to a vision Secretary Rumsfeld used yesterday on the shows, is put yourself in Saddam Hussein's shoes. You're losing control over more and more of your country; you have forces coming at you from every direction. It is not a good picture for him. But we always say in the same sentence, some of the toughest fighting could lie ahead. The outcome is inevitable. We know how it will end: the Iraqi regime will end. But we know that there could be some tough fighting ahead.

Jamie?

Q: Torie, one of the underpinnings of the strategy that the U.S. is using is what you keep to referring to, this -- creating the feeling that there's an inevitable outcome. That's --

Clarke: The inevitable outcome is more than a feeling --

Q: Well --

Clarke: -- it is reality.

Q: -- except, wouldn't you concede that at this point in the campaign, whether it's premature or not, you have yet to achieve that feeling of inevitability among the Iraqi people and the Iraqi leadership?

Clarke: Again, I'd push back on how you're saying it. It's not a feeling that we will achieve, it is the inevitable outcome that the Iraqi regime will be ended, the Iraqi people will be free of decades and decades and decades of torture and oppression, the likes of which I think the world has not ever seen before [SIC -- is one of the worst in history]; and we'll find the WMD and we'll get rid of it. That is absolutely inevitable.

What goes on in the mind of every one of the Iraqis, I don't know. I know if I were an Iraqi citizen I'd be saying, "Huh. Look at what's been going on here for the last 10 days -- or 12 days -- and we haven't seen any of our leaders." That's pretty extraordinary, when you think about it.

Bob?  
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From http://east.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/t03312003_t0331asd.html

I wish that this would end quickly, I honestly do, but I had to laugh when I saw her say this.

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