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Pantso:
Tux, you're right. As far as I'm concerned this thing is over. I don't like resorting in bad language and in general I don't loose my temper easily as long as some don't infuriate me by being provocative.
Pantso:
Creedon hi, I didn't see your post. I shouldn't have concluded the U.S government in this but I was in a way provoked to do so. I don't have anything against Americans. In fact I have many American friends here in Athens (we have a big american community) and I also have relatives in the States. I just don't like people preaching about what's politically correct and not, let alone swearing. That's all.
lazygamer:
I have nothing against Americians, I greatly respect their love for Firearms and want all you rednecks to know that ya gotta fight for this right, cuz there's one too many stupid shitheads who don't like it...
Although I do like to make fun of Americans not being as smart as Canadians etc.
What I DO hate is the American government. Their the bad guys IMO.
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like it or not (i don't like it), the KKK is allowed to hold peaceful rallies here, in a free country, and you would have been arrested for assault/attempted murder there... it is the politically correct thing to do.
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I don't like it either, but democracy works like this. Our best protection against a Nazi regime, is to allow Neo-Nazi's to beleive what they beleive and hold peaceful rallies, as long as they don't harm anyone. If the government/police has enough power to disperse a neo-nazi rally because they don't agree with that belief, then the government/police have too much power. Ok but Neo-Nazi's=bad right? How many conservative loo-sahs would regard rallies for gays(I don't like them, but it's a free country), abortion, freedom of expression etc. as evil and bad? If the police/government can disperse the peaceful Neo-Nazi rally, they can just as easily disperse gay, abortion, freedom of expression rallies etc.
Calum:
democracy doesn't work, i'm afraid, however i have yet to see any real alternative.
i think the reason democracy doesn't work is because of a convoluted electoral process and parliamentary model. the so called united kingdon has one of the worst examples of this. because our system is so ineffective (ie about 40 percent of votes cast actually count towards the government who gets voted in, and all House of Commons decisions must be vetoed by the House of Lords, who are unelected) we happen to have about 40% of the populace don't even bother to turn up on voting day. guess which political persuasion tends to make the effort? that's right, the foaming at the mouth "i'm alright, jack" types.
Anyway, re: guns, if it was against the law to carry guns, only criminals would have them, and even then not many would. This is the case in the UK, and it holds true. in a country where guns are supposedly a right (although i have it on authority that the right to bear arms is taken out of context by most people) i hear many times about people's kids killing each other, maniacs killing dozens in schools et cetera. is this good? freewill for the nutters? you decide... or at least you do in a democracy.
also,
quote:VoidMain said:
Calumn, don't confuse racism toward Russian people with being against the old communist Russian government. I don't believe race had much to do with anything there (I was in the USAF during the cold war stationed in Germany when the wall came down). I don't remember any of my buddies making racist Russian remarks nor had anything against the Russian people. Now sure the term "commie" floated around. Correct me if I am wrong but that is not a racist remark. It is a remark against a governmental persuasion.
And I knew many people of Russian and Polish decent and they were treated no differently than people of any other decent. In fact MOST Americans are decendants from Europe and other countries (most of my family came from Germany, Prussia, and a few others around 100 years ago, not that long). In fact it isn't much different than using the term "Nazi". I use that term often but I am not referring to Germans when I use it, hell I am 3/4 German. I am referring to the practices not the race.
The worst racism in America is probably toward African American people and Mexican people to a lesser extent. Now it isn't nearly as bad as it once was and I have hope that it will be a non-issue in the near future. Of course it is unlikely that racism can be wiped out completely.
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I agree entirely. very good post, VoidMain.It leaves little more to be said, in my opinion...
flap:
quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
I have nothing against Americians, I greatly respect their love for Firearms
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That's the funniest thing I've read all week.
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