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Lindows?
Kintaro:
Meh. Red-Hat 8.1 will have more software andless bugs.
When debian is more usable (friendly) i might use it on my home machines. I might put slackware on my server.
Calum:
what a dicksplash you're being in this article, X11! maybe you should get a job at Lindows Inc (or whatever the fuck they're called). Maybe your job title could be 'Steve-Jobs-in-training' or something.
What is all that bullshit you spouted anyway? all my comments about how red hat and mandrake already fill ALL the criteria that lindows strives for still stand. fuck's sake, what do you mean you can remove netscape? who cares? you can uninstall IE with 98lite as well, but why fucking bother when you can just remove windows with the install media for red hat, mandrake, debian, slackware, freebsd, openbsd, netbsd, and so on and so forth.
voidmain:
Really Debian is probably the easiest distro out there (if you are not a Linux n00b). I did run it on a few servers in the past but I currently do not have it running on anything. It's far better than Slackware if you ask me simply because it has the best package management system of all time.
dishawjp:
Ok,
I was afraid that I might start a mess like this. What I was trying to point out was that Lindows *might* be a way for *some* people, not members of this list, to get away from Microsoft.
Yes, Lindows does cost more, but as the article stated, the "Click and Run" feature is not necessary since they didn't disable the apt-get function. Lindows is based on Debian.
The "run as root" issue has been addressed.
It's supposed to be easy for newbies to install and run, and they're getting a lot of copies of Lindows Linux into the hands of computer users. Probably just about all of them former Windows users. I see that as a good thing. Sort of a "first step" sort of a thing. I doubt that many Lindows users will stick with that OS long term. It seems to be a kind of Linux with training wheels to me.
As these users begin to lose their fear of Linux, they may be willing to look at the more "standard" distributions.
I'm still relatively new to Linux. The difficulties of setting up a Linux box and learning to install and configure it properly are probably fresher in my mind than for most of you who have been using Linux for so much longer. If it hadn't been for all the help and support I received here, I might have given up. Probably not, but it sure as hell would have been a lot tougher for me. And I have a background in multiple OS's including Unix and am quite happy working from a command line. Think about some sorry-assed Windows "point and clicker" who just wants to get out from under Microsoft but can't hack direct migration to a "real" Linux.
I use Red Hat and really like it and have no intention of switching to Lindows or any other distribution in the forseeable future. I just thought that it might be good to keep an open mind about Lindows since we may well be seeing people coming to this forum looking for help in their migration away from M$.
I really didn't mean to start a war OR suggest that any current members of this forum would be any more interested in running Lindows themselves than I am.
Jim
Calum:
i was that point and clicker and i have been using linux for only a few months longer than you have. to boot i have no background in computers.
i started with red hat (7.0) it was a little difficult, so i tried mandrake 8.2. Simple, easy, there is no need for a newbie to use lindows OS. they can use red hat (version 8.0 of which is as easy as mandrake 8.2 was) or mandrake (9.0 is much the same as 8.2).
If they have to pay 100 bucks for it they are MUCH more likely to stay with it than if they got it for free. i resent any attempt of this sort to try and make people feel like they must use some software or other in order to 'get their money's worth'. It is unethical.
I reiterate. I was that point and clicker, and i do not see, and i bet i would not have seen, any reason for lindows OS to exist if it is not Free and Open Source.
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