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Socialist or immature
distortion:
i haven't read everything, so i apologize if this has already been said...
but, one of the unfortunate things is that humans are hardly mature enough to be apart of either system. capitalism would be great, were it not for the fact that living in a capitalist society essentially means you'll work all day and all night, so you can have enough money to support the "american dream" (oh yeah, i live in the U.S.). so you can have an oversized house you'll never set foot in, a wife/husband you'll never see, and children you can't watch grow up because you're still at the damned office. sure, it may be possible to become wealthy, but the likely hood of that is just this side of nil. especially if your a member of a minority. (how many rich business men do you know of that aren't white?) i don't want to say this but race still plays a role in determining how far you'll go in this country.
and on the other side of the capitalist coin, you have companies like nike, who move factories to developing nations. sounds great, until you find out that the employees are 12-year-old girls working 14 hours a day for so little money, they couldn't buy lunch at the mcdonalds that just opened up accross the street.
ultimately in a capitalist society, many people can't help but be over come by greed.
at the opposite end of the spectrum, i hardly think enough people are mature enough to handle the freedom that comes with socialism to make an entire country.
i hope one day that people realize that there is a big wide world beyond money. but for socialists, it is "battle" that couldn't possibly be won. so i guess i'm on the losing side. i don't care. i feel like it is the moral thing to do. and not to be conceited, but i feel like i'm one of the few people mature enough to handle the freedom that comes with socialism.
[ March 19, 2003: Message edited by: distortion ]
Kintaro:
I like todays nick (HA HA HA)
slave:
my favorite song:
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xyle_one:
okay. i have begun reading alot into socailism and i am definitley a socialist. no doubt about it. why would money matter if you had everything you needed, and were still able to obtain those "luxuries" you desired. even thosugh those luxuries would be meaningless. working for each oher, and growing to develop an educated, CIVILIZED, world where non suffered, where you were genuinely happy. fuck man, can you imagine. actually, genuinely helping each other, instead of trying to "one-up" joe smith neighbor. what would be the point? no more fucked up divide between the oppressed majority run by a rich minority. dude. i fuckng hate the world capitalism has created. it makes no sense. its back-ass-wards as hell. what i see, in a world that embraced a true socialist socitey, is a world i have only read about in novels written by Frank Herbert (my father went to school with his son, cool ) and Larry Niven. Shit, even George Orwell saw what will be created from capitalism. he saw it before it became such a montrosity. anyways. im rambling and im drunk. so i will sop. i will leave with only a few words. and they will be capitalised. FUCK CAPITALISM. IT DOES NOTHING BUT HOLD THE HUMAN RACE AT BAY. PREVENTS US FROM ACTUALLY "INNOVATING" ( )AND GROWING.
(goddamn it took me a long time to write that, i had to go back and correct a lot of shit. and im sure i missed somethings....)
Calum:
interestingly, many people have waxed on about 'nineteen eighty four' by orwell and how prophetic it is/isn't but i find it interesting that orwell's 'animal farm' has turned out to be much more prophetic of late 20th century western civilisation, even though it is based on the first few decades of the soviet union's history.
huxley's brave new world got it pretty much spot on in a lot of ways too.another little known book with a lot of good predictions (this one from 1962) is 'the fifth planet' by fred and geoffrey hoyle, if you get the chance to read it.
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