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Whats with this protesting European Patenting Stuff?
billy_gates:
quote:Originally posted by Faust:
freeloading communist hippy.
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hmmm.. wrong end of the spectrum, you should of said fasciest nazi
quote:I see now that protesting anything less than once a week isnt real protesting and is thus allowable by lord Jeffberg.
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I am not protestin. I am not trying to change anything, its just fun to talk with people with similar interests (and dis interests)
quote:Face it dude the only reason you're upset is because two minutes of your "valuable" time got wasted by someone who wanted you to think.
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your right, i am upset because people are wasting my time. I hate that. However when I went to his site and saw the protest I didn't read about it, cus I don't care. He may have wanted me to think and maybe if it applied to me I would have read further and decided how to continue but shutting down one of my sites would not be how I would have done it.
quote:Ghandi tried to DESTROY british occupation, thats violent and must be disallowed. South Africans tried to violently end aparteid and DESTROY it, what violent fuckers we shoulda put down that little rebellion huh?
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The people ghandi was protesting were hurting and killing them? What has Microsoft ever done to you? Made you buy shitty software. Ghandi and Martin Luther (just 2 examples) were being beaten and killed. Microsoft is not doing anything nearly as serious as this to you. And neither will EU software patents. Being killed seems like a good reason to have a very organised, large, and peaceful protest.
quote:Yeah we get violent cops too. And hey, when it goes bad guess who gets blamed? Certainly not the cops. At some protests towards the end of 2001 (s11 protests - completely unrelated to the NY tragedy cos it hadnt happened yet) cops rode horses into the crowd. What gets put on the TV? "Violent protestors attack police horses." Of course horses will balk you dumb fucks, they dont exactly like trampling living people...
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do u think martin luther was never beaten by violent cops? Yet they still didn't get violent. They knew if they got violent then their violence is the only thing the media would show. Martin and Ghandi knew this and knew the solution? Why don't current protestors know this and know the solution?
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No the correct response was tax the rich to all buggery and then let people have a decent health care system.
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Get your own damn medical insurance. I have my own. Stop taking money from people who deserve it and giving to people who don't. Who are you to decide that people that are smart and work hard get to lose their money and the people without jobs who will never get one get the money?
quote:Who decides who is allowed to protest anyway? You? You think normal protestors are bad and Gandhi is allowable, but how do you know before hand what protests to ban? The US was founded on protest and letting the opressed have a chance - it's a pity a few misguided morons have decided to think that protesting what you think is wrong a dirty thing.
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Ghandi had a reason to protest. His people were being killed every day for no reason. The Chinese people have a right to protest their blatand human rights violations. How can you even sit there and say that your EU Patent protest even COMPARES to Ghandis and Martin Luthers protests. They were protesting their right to live. You are just whining about how you now have to think of your own ideas for software instead of using someone elses.
I do think people have a right to protest. But the protest does not have to be started before you will know if it is successfull or not. I just ask that before people protest that first they got a lot of people. Second they vow to no violence no matter what. They have the dedication to hold on for YEARS, not days. And they don't go screaming and yelling or blocking traffic or vomiting on entrances to buildings. That they just be a group of people who walk around outside of the place they are protesting. Also they should tell local authorities before doing a protest.
Do you not think those are fair conditions for protesting.
Cus truthfully its not the good protestors that make prosting look bad. It is the bad protestors who make protesting look bad. When you block city traffic, and fucking vomit on building entrances so people can't get in. That is what makes protesting look bad. And because there are a greater number of bad protests to good ones, I look down on protesting as an immature way of expressing your opinion.
Now I am going to back down from this fight. I don't want to anger any more people. I like hanging around here and casually talking about shit. Most of the stuff I read here I don't take seriously. I don't go and tell me friends how evil certain people are. I don't care. I just like socialising with random people from all over the world.
P.S. don't diss America, its not cool. I don't diss the country your from (please don't be from canada). I'm just kidding, there is nothing wrong with canada. I just chose to stay in America and not move. I will tell you though. If I did leave America I would go to switzerland. But every where else has too high of taxes, so I doubt I will be moving.
but seriously don't make fun of someone elses home country. Thats just a way to make a bullshit flame war.
I think I am done. completely,
we will just have to agree to disagree.
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by jeffberg: Mac Capitalist:
A couple of the websites I visit. mainly www.xboxmediaplayer.de have gone into some sort of protes thing against what the EU is trying to do about software patents or something.
My question is why are the people shutting down their sites to protest, why can't they just vote like normal people. They can also stop investing money in patented software. But stop fucking protesting you long haired tree hugging liberal hippies!
God damn it, I don't like Protestors. They don't get anything done, and their protests almost always turn out violent and dangerous.
I am a capitalist. When it comes to business there is only one way to vote. With your wallet. Now this mixes politics with business. So now there are 2 ways to vote. A ballot (I would assume contacting your representative, although not sure how people in europe are represented) and with your wallet. I highly doubt protesting it going to do anything. And it esecially isn't when the people that protest have shut down the sites that the businesses want them to close cus they give free stuff away.
Just my 2c
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christ you are a fuckass.
however i'm not a liberal myself, in fact i say the best way to deal with fuckasses like this is a bullet.
that's the difference between liberalism and my idea of socialism.
now, jeffberg, if you really do give a shit about what this patent thing is all about (although your words make me think this whole topic is simply an ego boost for you to mouth off in about how everybody else is a pinko and you're great), you can read this, and this one too. There are some more articles about it on that site also, if you feel you don't have time to read those then shut the fuck up and sit down, because the topic of this thread is after all the EU patents situation, and you damn well better get your facts straight before you mouth off, you fucking yank.
edit: and fucking actually READ the first one, moron (yes i think you need to be told twice) - it explains why your comments about "thinking up your own ideas" are worthy of a one and a half year old tortoise.
[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]
flap:
quote:christ you are a fuckass.
however i'm not a liberal myself, in fact i say the best way to deal with fuckasses like this is a bullet.
that's the difference between liberalism and my idea of socialism.
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Hear hear.
suselinux:
If patents become ANY more intrusive, the western world is going to turn into a Corperate, facist state.
Heil Bill, mine Furer!
Actually that's a good analogy, because, it's been said, Gemany's best "economic" time was during Hitlers leadership.
[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: suselinux ]
Laukev7:
It's already done. It's been a few years since USA went from capitalism to defacto corporatism.
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