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Whats with this protesting European Patenting Stuff?
flap:
You seriously think Bush's repugnant conservative views are any different from the person who started this thread? What is someone in your position doing supporting republicans anyway?
Stryker:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
You seriously think Bush's repugnant conservative views are any different from the person who started this thread?
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yes.
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What is someone in your position doing supporting republicans anyway?
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umm... "supporting rebublicans" would be my answer to that. If you meant, "why?" then... i dont know. i'll post later, a little busy now.
billy_gates:
quote:Land Rovers?
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Yes... A 98 Discovery and a 2002 FreeLander
quote:Originally posted by Doctor V: Gentoo Lunatic:
Its not even about having so much power you can eliminate competition in a heartbeat anymore. All a company needs is to own a patent for their own business model and the act of competeing with that company becomes illegal. No exaggeration here, its that simple. Lets say you wanted to set up an internet auction site, thinking you could do it and give users a better deal than ebay does, guess what, if your American, can can't, its illegal cause some guy owns online auctions. And Ebay got sued for 35 million dollars cause of it. Read more. Maybe you want to sell things online and making it easy for users to use by storing their info in cookies...if your American and you did that you'd get your ass sued off. Amazon owns doing that, youd have to ask their permission and probably pay them royalties if you wanted to sell things online and keep user info in cookies. Read more.
Better start a business doing something else. And you better do it quick too, cause considering how vague and far reaching many of these patents are, pretty soon there will be really nothing left thats not covered by someone's patent. Sound crazy to you yet? Some people get a crazy patent of a business model or two, never lift a finger in doing anything with it, and wait for someone else to get rich off it so they can sue them to hell. Sick, no?
We all suffer from this, we have to pay Amazon prices when who knows, another company might have been able to compete with them and bring their prices down. This is just a start, its going to get a whole lot worse from here. Now if I was in Europe, I would be in flames trying to keep this shit from happening too.
Now there's alot alot alot more to be said about the issue. I suggest you read up on it when your done reading about Adam Smith and capitalism, and them form a more educated opinion before bringing it back here.
;) V
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I completely agree with you. these patents are a bad thing. But this post was not pro patent. It was anti protesting. I do not think protesting is the proper way to stop these patents. (as I have explained before)
Faust... it was not necissary to make this personal
quote:The protestors trampled by horses werent getting violent you fuck arse. Bit hard when a horse just broke your ribs. What I said was that horses will balk and throw their riders if they are being made to charge at a group of people who by the way WERE SITTING DOWN PEACEFULLY AT THE TIME.
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Ok then... the riders got wut they deserve... I don't see what your so pissed about?
quote:They do you retard. Unfortunately people like you get shown scenes of a few violent protestors over and over again and associate that with all protestors because you are too fucking apathetic and weak to go out and see the real world.
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if u mean weak and apethetic means I have never participated in a protest then I guess I am weak and apathetic. And your right... the only protests I have ever seen are on TV. However they usually show the protest before it gets violent and after... not just after. Even my friend, who is a complete outspoken liberal, was bragging when the an antiwar protest in SF took place and didn't get violent. As if it was a rare thing. Also, violence isn't my main reason for thinking that protesting doesn't get stuff done. Its the fact that Companies are basically affected by only one thing... money.
quote:You mean unionize and say "either treat us fairly or we leave?" Holy shit! Never would of thought of that one!
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no... not unionize... just quit (and if u wanna add some flare, don't give a 2 week notice)
quote:Unions also bother me, they are designed to give the worker more over time, for doing nothing more.
Man you have no fucking clue...
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If they are not designed to give the woker either more money or more benefits then wut exactly do they do?
quote:Just remember that the rich people were poor at one time. and they did exactly wut u are doing now.
William Henry Gates the Third was poor at one time? George Bush Junior was poor at one time? Those at the top DO NOT WORK THEIR WAY TO THE TOP. They start there and never leave.
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I should have said riches families were poor at one time... so, you really got my error on that one
quote:So in other words me me me? Let me tell you something - you will never be able to enjoy that life. You just arent good enough to reach "the top" because for the average person to "work their way up" you need a level playing field of a lot of talent, and from what I see you have neither.
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you have no idea who I am. I don't think it is proper for you to tell me what I can and can not do
Stryker:
quote: posted September 05, 2003 04:25 PM
Stryker:
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I don't understand exactly what you want me to say. "Oh I feel so bad for your family and all others like it. I will start fighting for the other side now"
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that makes you look like a real dick. i know it's a personal attack that you dont want, but it really does.
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I just said above that I am a cynical person who is completely self centered.
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see above. i hope that something happens to you, temporarily perhaps, that puts you in my position.
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I sympathy for you. I wish it were better for you.
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no you dont.
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But I'm not going to do anything about it.
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you will if the public says you will, welcome to america. taxing you isn't illegal.
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and flap is right. You are a liberal. Just because you are in such a bad position makes you a liberal... just about automatically.
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perhaps, i'm not sure anymore. i'm not one of those ultra liberals that give them all a bad name, i dont really give myself a title. i believe what i believe. rarely people believe the same thing and i think it's stupid to classify people into political groups.
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Why are you supporting Bush?
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mainly, his ideas on the war i agree with. dont argue that though, i wont bother responding i've had too much arguement over it.
billy_gates:
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that makes you look like a real dick. i know it's a personal attack that you dont want, but it really does.
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Well... what I said to you I would condone as personal. So I apologize and I did deserve that.
quote:I sympathy for you. I wish it were better for you.
no you dont.
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Actually I do. I have a friend who is not exactly the most well of person in the world. I feel bad for him too. I don't like the fact that there are poor people. But that is the way it is. And there is nothing I can do about it.
quote:you will if the public says you will, welcome to america. taxing you isn't illegal
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You are correct here, but I do vote for lower taxes. Also America has some of the lowest income taxes in the world. That is another reason I like the US
quote:and flap is right. You are a liberal. Just because you are in such a bad position makes you a liberal... just about automatically.
perhaps, i'm not sure anymore. i'm not one of those ultra liberals that give them all a bad name, i dont really give myself a title. i believe what i believe. rarely people believe the same thing and i think it's stupid to classify people into political groups.
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I totally Agree with you here. I don't think people can be 100% classified under one name or the other. Every person is different. Like even though I consider myself conservative. I believe in the right to abortion and the right to being gay and the requirement of separation of church and state (I am also a mac user... which is on the liberal side of the computing world)
quote:Why are you supporting Bush?
mainly, his ideas on the war i agree with. dont argue that though, i wont bother responding i've had too much arguement over it.
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That is the main reason I support him too. The second being he lowers taxes
I think this has been a good post. I actually had some things I could agree with on this one.
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