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File Managers - what's your opinion?

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psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by Faust:


using it now... not my favorite file manager (konqueror/xfm are better in my personal opinion..) but it does have a nice way to view folders... it like splits the fm window into 3 and displays the hierachy by putting each folders contents in a seperate window pane.  the most "senior" folder takes the left hand pane and as you drill down they fill from left to right.  Its a nice touch and it lets you move around _very_ quikly. the bar above the file windows i dislike though... theres no readily accesible "sort by," i intensely dislike file managers with inbuilt burn to cd buttons and while there is a back and  forward button I cannot for the life of me find an "up" button!  Mac users is there any way to change these things?  while im on the "preferences" subject how does one toggle off the rotating rainbow loading "thing"???

an ideal file manager should be simple, fluid and FAST, and have any more complex features accesed through right clicking.  also drag and drop should of course be quick and easy.  (by simple i mean the only buttons on the file manager bar should be up, shortcuts to the home dir and an address bar. nothing more.)  the fast part is very important to me i cannot stand slow File Managers.  i also hate gaudy or overly intricate fms, and like you Calum I despise the norton commander / midnight commander / worker genre...  a good file manager should also have *customizable buttons!* its a very nice feature in some file managers.  single click opening of files/folders is also good.

[ April 16, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
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Faust,

In the Finder, click on the finder menu and select preffrences. Also, click on the view menu, and select view options. Also, you can click on the Apple Menu and select System preffrences. Each of these lead to several options for altering the way the GUI FMS works.

As for being able to sort by name etc. Simply click on the bar in whichever windw you are in, for example, where it says "date modified" click on that bar and everything is auto-sorted by date etc. If your a menu man you can also sort it thrugh the view menu.

The long button at the top right of every window hides teh navigation bar. The buttons on the Nav. bar can also be draged off (poof) and replaced with others. Selecting "open folders in new windows" from Finder->prefrences will open each folder in a new window (my personal way of doing things.)

The three little buttons in the nav bar that look like some squares, a bunch of lines, and some boxes, these togle between colums view, icon view, and text view.

batch file management can be achived thrugh the terminal   :D   or the shift key   ;)  

As for the spinny rainbow wheel, you can go to www.resexcellence.com, for ways of "moding" it, as well as other usefull hacks and mods for OSX.

EDIT: Also, for alternate OSX file managers dig in:

http://osx.hyperjeff.net/

There are a few OSS alternatives.

[ April 16, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

Faust:
Thanks psyjax, i should probably have looked harder before criticising instead of being like a windows user seeing linux for the first five seconds and declaring "it cant do this"   :rolleyes:  [goes red]

The third "window panes" view i love so i'll stick with that, and i also especially like the ability to hide the menu bar... it gives back a lot of screen space.

the rainbow wheel "mod" url wont load so i'll google for it... i dont think the admins would like me installing s/w on public computers anyway.  

i would also like to unreservedly apogize to X11 for what was effectively a "pre emptive flame."  he is obviously entitled to both use whatever file managers or shells he likes and he has a democratic right to express that opinion. the post will be deleted.

Faust:
on first impressions id have to say rpminator looks pretty cool...

Calum:
one thing i kind of like with file managers is their compatibility with each other. older versions of nautilus and konqueror couldn't drag and drop between each other i found (nautilus would just crash) and the same happens when dragging and dropping from dfm to konqueror, and i bet most others BUT nautilus and konqueror now drag and drop mostly okay between the two, and wonder of wonders, the awful xftree (a 'commander' from hell) is drag/drop compatible with konqueror also! one bonus mark for that. i am hoping to try out rox which appears to be a desktop environment built around a file manager, and seems a lot more mature than dfm, but i haven't tried it so i can't comment. what is this rpminator btw?

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