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iancom:
Yup, I certainly have no problem with that!

creedon:
WOW; this place is growing up in a hurry!  GREAT thoughts guys, but I think you're limiting yourselves.  IMHO, I think that, at some unspecified time in the future (unspecified, but sooner than we'd like to admit), there will come a point when we start to integrate our computers into ourselves.  I truly believe that we've engineered our own replacements; eventually our race won't be able to exist without our "onboard" computers, but long before that happens, we'll be using computers that are SO personalized, the OS will be our thoughts, directly connected to the system.  At that point will come the ultimate in OS freedom; everyman his own programmer/developer/operator/???
I know it sounds flakey, but as was pointed out in previous posts, look at how rapid development has gone to this point.  And there's been more than one story about different attempts to control a computer with thought.  Given control by thought, it's a tiny step to integration with the machine.  Maybe the Borg weren't so far-fetched after all, huh?

pkd_lives:
Thanks for the links Voidmain.

I knew supercomputers were multiprocessing, but thanks that was highly interesting. But it is those supercomputers that were meant to be the model for home computing, and as such it grieves me that power is available, that we could get our hands on, and then no need for this self perpetuating rebuy every few years (I'm especially angry as I am now at the rough end of the upgrade deal).

Master of Reality - As for using the response to Ian C, that is fine by me.

Did you ever use Word for DOS - It wasn't bad? It was essentailly a text formatter. There were secretaries going around and slamming it when it became a window formatted item, telling their bosses they would never use it. Poor dears - they are probably forced into it now. I am unfamiliar with VI, but yeah I remember Edit. Used that a few times. First computer I had was a ZX81. Word cannot even create a blank file small enough to fit in it's memory (I eventually got the 16K add-on - ram wobble and all).

Hey Creedon, trust me I am not limiting myself, but I can get too philosophical, and too high end, so I try to keep myself limited to a level more down to earth (in this instance home computing). PKD stands for Philip Kindred Dick, which should explain a bit. Yes I love the idea of a self written biotechnical interface, but there is no-way I am letting anything in that has M$ ANYWHERE involved, how would you like to be walking down the steet and suddenly find you've remembered too many things and then fall over and be unable to get up without rebooting.
 
But to follow you further, I presume you mean that our thoughts act as the command structure, if that is so then our output is due to become very idiosyncratic, (ministry of silly walks anyone) which means that the commonly accepted view of the right and wrong thing to be as a human being will be overwritten. I bloody hope so, I am fed up with the BS all the time about racial crimes, and so on ad infinitum, we need something like this to force the human race into a state where we totally re-evaluate ourselves at an individual level, and start to think, instead of being led by the commercial overtures of industry. Capitalism is all well and good, but in reality it is only a small part of living your life.

There are parts of forums for fun, and parts for debate, and parts for philopsophical ramblings. The point being some people have good ideas, but are more inarticulate, and for them the shoot the comment out and argue through feedback is much more preferable. Freedom is a precious thing, it is not to be stifled because some prefer to reach their ideas through debate, argument, or quiet contemplation. This thread appears to be one of the latter - anyone else? On with the M$ hating. The future will be upon us one day.

creedon:

quote:Originally posted by pkd_lives:
Thanks for the links Voidmain.

I knew supercomputers were multiprocessing, but thanks that was highly interesting. But it is those supercomputers that were meant to be the model for home computing, and as such it grieves me that power is available, that we could get our hands on, and then no need for this self perpetuating rebuy every few years (I'm especially angry as I am now at the rough end of the upgrade deal).

Master of Reality - As for using the response to Ian C, that is fine by me.

Did you ever use Word for DOS - It wasn't bad? It was essentailly a text formatter. There were secretaries going around and slamming it when it became a window formatted item, telling their bosses they would never use it. Poor dears - they are probably forced into it now. I am unfamiliar with VI, but yeah I remember Edit. Used that a few times. First computer I had was a ZX81. Word cannot even create a blank file small enough to fit in it's memory (I eventually got the 16K add-on - ram wobble and all).

Hey Creedon, trust me I am not limiting myself, but I can get too philosophical, and too high end, so I try to keep myself limited to a level more down to earth (in this instance home computing). PKD stands for Philip Kindred Dick, which should explain a bit. Yes I love the idea of a self written biotechnical interface, but there is no-way I am letting anything in that has M$ ANYWHERE involved, how would you like to be walking down the steet and suddenly find you've remembered too many things and then fall over and be unable to get up without rebooting.
 
But to follow you further, I presume you mean that our thoughts act as the command structure, if that is so then our output is due to become very idiosyncratic, (ministry of silly walks anyone) which means that the commonly accepted view of the right and wrong thing to be as a human being will be overwritten. I bloody hope so, I am fed up with the BS all the time about racial crimes, and so on ad infinitum, we need something like this to force the human race into a state where we totally re-evaluate ourselves at an individual level, and start to think, instead of being led by the commercial overtures of industry. Capitalism is all well and good, but in reality it is only a small part of living your life.

There are parts of forums for fun, and parts for debate, and parts for philopsophical ramblings. The point being some people have good ideas, but are more inarticulate, and for them the shoot the comment out and argue through feedback is much more preferable. Freedom is a precious thing, it is not to be stifled because some prefer to reach their ideas through debate, argument, or quiet contemplation. This thread appears to be one of the latter - anyone else? On with the M$ hating. The future will be upon us one day.
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LOVED "The Man in the High Castle".  No I'm not even suggesting that ANYTHING MS will end up in our heads.  Look at miniturization; the chip designers are talking about the speed of light being a "limiting factor" in chip design!  186,000 miles per second a LIMITING FACTOR???  Soon, we're going to not even talk about an operating system; you don't talk about your nervous system, do you?  Well, I honestly believe that, sooner or later, what we think of as computers now will be integrated into ourselves; that's what I meant by "engineered our own replacements".  We're a relativly new species, and evolution is an ongoing process- maybe we're just taking baby steps into our next iteration.  (BIG Arthur C. Clarke fan!!!)

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