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And you wonder why Linux is not Mainstream Like Windows is?
willysnout:
quote:Originally posted by bazoukas:
Try to ask them to go to Linux and they will start crying like bitches.
PEOPLE ARE FUCKING MORONS!!!!! They are sheeps.
Beeeeeee beeeeeeeeee beeeeeeeee.
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There's a really good book you should read. It's called The Wealth of Nations. Author is Adam Smith. Published in 1776. Chapter 1 explains an idea called "division of labor." You know, not everyone does everything for themselves. Instead, they specialize. Some people are farmers, others are blacksmiths, others are computer geeks.
When the farmer needs help with his computer, he hires a geek. Payment can come in all kinds of forms. If not money, maybe eggs, because the geek has offloaded food production to someone who specializes in it.
So ... do you slaughter your own tofu or do you buy it at the natural foods co-op?
p.s.: Without problems there are no jobs. Without jobs, you sit on heating grates and beg for quarters.
[ August 05, 2002: Message edited by: willysnout ]
DC:
quote:Originally posted by willysnout:
So ... do you slaughter your own tofu or do you buy it at the natural foods co-op?
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The ting is that we geeks CAN grow/slaughter our own food if we want to. Granted, it may be less good as the farmer's, but it'll be edible.
Most ppl can't even do the simpelest things on a computer. Even with a manual in their hands.
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by willysnout:
There's a really good book you should read. It's called The Wealth of Nations. Author is Adam Smith. Published in 1776. Chapter 1 explains an idea called "division of labor." You know, not everyone does everything for themselves. Instead, they specialize. Some people are farmers, others are blacksmiths, others are computer geeks.
When the farmer needs help with his computer, he hires a geek. Payment can come in all kinds of forms. If not money, maybe eggs, because the geek has offloaded food production to someone who specializes in it.
So ... do you slaughter your own tofu or do you buy it at the natural foods co-op?
p.s.: Without problems there are no jobs. Without jobs, you sit on heating grates and beg for quarters.
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Hey, I grew up on a farm, I milked cows all my life. I was also a fighter jet mechanic for about 12 years. Have been a professional computer geek for the last 12 years. I know many farmers who do not need help with their computer.
I don't ask any farmer for a free lunch. I don't expect any farmer to ask me to fix his computer for free. You want to pay to have your computer fixed that is fine but there is nothing to stop anyone from learning a little about it themselves and not pay anyone for it. Just as it is ok for anyone to have a garden and grow their own food. If you are dumber than a box of rocks, pay someone to do your dirty work.
People are not born with a gene that makes them a farmer. People are not born with a gene that makes them a computer geek. Now it is entirely possible that people are born with a gene that makes them lazy and even more possible that they are born with a gene that makes them stupid.
willysnout:
quote:Originally posted by VoidMain:
You want to pay to have your computer fixed that is fine but there is nothing to stop anyone from learning a little about it themselves and not pay anyone for it. Now it is entirely possible that people are born with a gene that makes them lazy and even more possible that they are born with a gene that makes them stupid.
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I agree with you that people don't work for free, nor should they. If you don't want to help someone fix their comptuer, then don't do it. You'll hear no complaints from me.
My point is that people who don't understand computers aren't "dumb." It's a complicated world and lots of people don't want to learn how to fix their computers, or have no aptitude for it. There is nothing at all wrong with this.
Other way around, in fact. It is called "specialization." People focus their time and effort on things they enjoy and/or do well. When this happens, the overall welfare goes up.
It's a damn shame that Microsoft, of all companies, should wind up being the leader in user-friendliness. That is a HUGE commentary on the incompetence, insularity, arrogance and isolationism prevalent within the "geek," i.e., computer specialist, community.
If the geeks weren't so out of it, Microsoft would fall like a ton o'bricks. Especially after that abortion they call Windows XP. But they haven't fallen, and that's because Linux is dominated by arrogant geeks whose answer to ordinary usability problems by non-specialists is to call them idiots.
I once took a college class on the history of World War II. The professor talked about how, when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union, they were greeted with wild enthusiasm in places like the Ukraine, which had been literally starved to death by Stalin. Within months, the people learned that the Germans were even worse than the Russians.
Stalin, truly one of the most hideous murderers in human history, wound up rallying these poor wretches! You see, the Nazis had classified Eastern Europeans as animals fit for slavery and death. This is how German snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Not that I wish they had been smarter; I mention this as a point of strategy and tactics only.
At the moment, this is how I look upon the Linux crowd. There is widespread dissatisfaction with Microsoft, and it grows with every price increase, "upgrade" and power play. What do the Silicon Valley pinheads do in response? They set about to blow a collossal opportunity by projecting hostility and arrogance toward people who just want to use their computers as opposed to fall in love with them.
Now that, children, is the very definition of idiocy.
[ August 05, 2002: Message edited by: willysnout ]
[ August 05, 2002: Message edited by: willysnout ]
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by willysnout:
If the geeks weren't so out of it, Microsoft would fall like a ton o'bricks. Especially after that abortion they call Windows XP. But they haven't fallen, and that's because Linux is dominated by arrogant geeks whose answer to ordinary usability problems by non-specialists is to call them idiots.
At the moment, this is how I look upon the Linux crowd. There is widespread dissatisfaction with Microsoft, and it grows with every price increase, "upgrade" and power play. What do the Silicon Valley pinheads do in response? They set about to blow a collossal opportunity by projecting hostility and arrogance toward people who just want to use their computers as opposed to fall in love with them.
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You got it wrong. I can not think of a single case where someone asked a simple question about Linux and have any experienced Linux user do anything but bend over backward trying to help them, for free, no charge. I spend several hours a day doing "charity" Linux work, because I love to do it, and because I hate Microsoft.
Now, I have seen many cases where someone has asked a simple question about Windows and get flamed for it. After all this *is* an anti-Microsoft board. I would expect nothing less.
And Silicon Valley has nothing really to do with Linux at all. That is the place where proprietary things come from. The linux effort is worldwide and has a complete opposite philosophy to what you see from Silicon Valley. Microsoft are the Nazis (big, bad, proprietary, the leader is an ugly dictator). Linux, GNU, Open Source are the Jews. Just like Hitler and the Nazis, Microsoft will fall and then life will be much better.
[ August 05, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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