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got my reply finally
Stryker:
after much waiting i finally got my reply from my school district. I'm not exactly sure what to do about it, although I am open to suggestions.
quote:
John,
Thank you for your message and for thinking through the options so thoroughly. Though I don't know you, you sound like quite an intelligent young man who has both skill and personal objectives. And while I would very much like to support your request, I don't have the ability to allow for this to happen. We cannot even accommodate teacher requests such as this, if we are to maintain security and standards for teh district that we can support, so although I truly appreciate your feelings, I am afraid that I cannot help you at this time. This is much like when you will graduate from high school and subsequently college and go to work for a firm where you may need to conduct business in the manner that that company does, and not in the way that you might prefer. I hope that you will understand and work your way through this, maintaining your principles and integrity, and just using the tools that we do have to offer you at the current time. Most districts can't even offer the level of technology that we are providing, and I do hope that you are enjoying your CISCO class and all that it ahs to offer you. Please feel free to contact me in the future should you have questions and thank you again for your inquiry,
Debbie
[email protected]
Technology Implementation Manager
-----Original Message-----
From: John [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:15 PM
To: X
Subject: requesting permission
I'm not exactly sure if it is necessary to request your, or anyone's, permission but I thought I better just to be sure. I'm a student at Mariner High School, and am terribly against Microsoft. They are one of the few things in this world I full heartedly hate. I hate they way they lie to the public, the way they force updates on me, the way their products are ridden with bugs, their incredible insecurity, and the contridictions I hear from them. So I choose not to use them. I am running Slackware 8.1 on my laptop, and would like to be able to use it at school with the same networking permissions as my peers. I have a computer class and I don't need any special software they have, I just need the web browser and a word processor. I have this stuff with slackware. I am asking you if I can use my laptop, plug it into the network, and do my everyday tasks. Such as saving my files on my "H Drive (\\ma1srv\%username%$)", and use the proxy server to access the cisco site. I do not need any special instructions for accessing my saved files on the network, but as for the cisco site I would need the address of the proxy server and the port it is running on. (http, https, socks). I do not feel my education should be altered because of my feelings for a company.
Thank you,
John
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slave:
How can they tell whether you are using Windows or Linux? Why does it matter?
rtgwbmsr:
quote: teh district
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But really, that is complete bullshit.
Although, you can get these things by 2 means:
1) Get something that autoscans on the network. Macs can usually sniff out servers pretty well, as can port scanners. I got my school's main server's IP by doing this.
2) Social Engineering. This is how I got what I know. Kiss ass, hang around the IT people. Copy down anything you see them type in...I got the firewall and proxy's IP by doing this.
I did this a while back in high school and again (not too long ago) in "higher education" :D .
Good Luck!
Pantso:
I'm a bit confused. Why did you need their permission to use Slack and how can they tell the difference? And most of all, why did you have to almost apologise for not using windows? :rolleyes:
Stryker:
My school is very protective of their computers and network. I'm not at all sorry for using windows, I don't see what gave you that idea. I thought I may have needed permission because of their over protection. Last year I sent a message to a friend, (net send) and a few days later I got yelled at. I logged on about an hour before school started and I had someone ask me why I was on. Last year I visited my own web page and the librarian got mad because it was a "misuse of their network". I'm going to reply with a few questions, mostly complain though. I'm not sure what to say though... I have to go though, be back later.
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