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Fett101:
Broad generalizations never do. I've met rebellious and conformist alike. If I wanted to, I could assume all british have bad teeth and mop tops.
Calum:
lorkorub has proven himself to be a complete moronic cunt.
i don't give a fuck if that compromises my intelectual position, lorkorub's attitude has pissed me off so much with his assumptions, his lies, his selfish demands, that i have no choice but to say he is a moronic cunt.
as was said above, there is no wonder americans get slagged if you post this all over the internet. for the record there has been NO AMERICA BASHING WHATSOEVER UP TO THIS POINT in this thred. NONE whatsoever. any america bashing you saw was made up in your own moonshine addled head.
i really hesitate to say this but with people like lorkorub around, i understand more how george bush can exist and i have less pity for the american people...
Calum:
quote:America is horrible, indeed. It really is. This is the nation that welcomes people like you with open arms, and helps you settle in. We accept anyone of good stature, and give them benefits to do that which is righteous. And what do we get in return? People from Pakistan saying how much they love Osama, and what he does to this country. And their answer to this next question is: "Oh yes, America has the best universities in the land. If I can get a Visa, I am there."
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you are the worst scum that has ever walked on this planet. if i had my way, you and yours would be lined up and shot for wasting what little resources we have left on this world. that quote above is ENTIRELY constructed of LIES. i am disgusted that so many people actually agree with you.
i have this to say: "Give me your tired and your hungry".
Australia is just as bad as your country but at least they don't lie about it. the USA is the worst country in the world. there's your yank bashing, but it's true and that's why you're all so sensitive about it.
LorKorub:
Yes, America, the devious evil entity. The plunderer of natural resources. Yes, everything we do is horrible. We don't care about the billions in humanitarian aid we send out each year (that comes from our tax dollars), we don't care about our men and women that we send around the world to provide a glimmer of hope to those who have had none. We just drive our SUVs, eat McDonalds five times a day, and we all live this lavish lifestyle that everyone in the world is so envious of, that we actually have to take a time out from out pints, and explain it to some of you assholes.
Scum? Scum? Is that what you called me, Calum? I thought you could dish out something a little more wholehearted than that. As far as your natural resources comment goes, and about how America wastes its gifts, have you been swimming in the ocean lately? Well, I have, just today. Ours is nice, clean, and as blue as the sky. If I am ever in England, and someone holds a gun to my head and forces to me to go swimming, I'd compromise and eat dogshit with a knitting needle before I'd ever swim in that sewer that you guys call a sea. I'm through with you....
To the guy who said that I "am just an American who thinks the world owes me something." No one owes me shit. Even if I was Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Pope, I still wouldn't ask for anything. I am just tired of the American bashing from a bunch of people who neither myself, nor my country, has done anything to. What have we done to Australia? Or the UK? Or France? What causes this angst toward America? We, well at least I, treat these people as guests in my country when I see them, and more importantly, I treat them as friends.
Before you flame me, put yourself in my shoes. I have never been outside my country (with the exception of Mexico and Canada), and I have never, to the best of my knowledge, done anything to any of you. When I read the posts on this board like the McFucking McAmericans, and comments about my country, and the people in it (spoken in broad generalizations), it pisses me off. Sorry if my post was "one of the most profane posts that you have ever read", but I read the same type of horseshit from you people every day. And, no, Calum, it is not true. Not even 10% of it. Obviously you've never been to America. And if you have, and you hold those sentiments, I am sorry you went to the place you did, and met the people you met.
You guys need to practice what you are preaching. You bash Americans all of the time, for the stupidest fucking thing, then someone comes in and gives you a dose of your own medicine, and you all start sobbing like a bunch of girls.
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by LorKorub / BOB:
Yes, America, the devious evil entity. The plunderer of natural resources. Yes, everything we do is horrible.
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dumbass, are you spouting this shit out of anger or are you seriously under the impression that this sort of comment is the kind of 'america bashing' that you disagree with. these sentiments are nothing like the concerns that real everyday non-US citizens have. those people are motivated by their brains, their thoughts, their concerns and their ideas. did you ever stop to wonder why somebody would mindlessly bash america? no? well there's NO reason, this shows that if somebody bashes america, there must be some reason behind it. Either that or you americans are so used to mindlessly insulting people with no good reason that you imagine the rest of the world does the same. which is it to be?
quote:We don't care about the billions in humanitarian aid we send out each year (that comes from our tax dollars),
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you do care. most of you, and in particular most of your politicians reduce said amount every year, and would love to reduce it to zero. nevermind the fact that your economy has fucked up the economy and ecology of all those countries that you oh so generously dole out your spare change to.
quote:we don't care about our men and women that we send around the world to provide a glimmer of hope to those who have had none.
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what, by dropping bombs on them? oh i bet they long for the day a US bomber looms overhead and 'accidentally' destroys another civilian settlement or cripples a vital line of supply to their village in the name of democracy.
quote:We just drive our SUVs, eat McDonalds five times a day, and we all live this lavish lifestyle that everyone in the world is so envious of,
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sadly, this is true. i really wish you were exaggerating.
quote:that we actually have to take a time out from out pints, and explain it to some of you assholes.
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ASSHOLES EH? HOW COME IT'S US BASHING IF ANYBODY SAYS 'USA' BUT IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY FOR YOU TO CALL THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD ASSHOLES? NOBODY has insulted america so far except me, and that was in an angry reaction to your racist post, so stick it up your arse, cunt. you USA people do NOT have a gods' given right to be the police of the world, and to tell people what to do and who to be so shut it when you speak to me.
quote:Scum? Scum? Is that what you called me, Calum?
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em yes it is, well done on being able to read, racist. think you can cope with a word longer than four letters?
quote:I thought you could dish out something a little more wholehearted than that.
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is wholehearted really a word? scum's a pretty bad thing, and i also said i would have you shot were it up to me, a statement you have said nothing to change my mind about.
quote:As far as your natural resources comment goes, and about how America wastes its gifts, have you been swimming in the ocean lately? Well, I have, just today.
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are you saying the ocean comes from the USA? just another one of your beautiful exports is it?
quote:Ours is nice, clean, and as blue as the sky. If I am ever in England, and someone holds a gun to my head and forces to me to go swimming, I'd compromise and eat dogshit with a knitting needle before I'd ever swim in that sewer that you guys call a sea.
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oh yeah? well you know what, here all our trees (those that are left standing) are nice and leafy and green, but you know what? in Norway they have a lot of totally dead forests which have been destroyed by acid rain. you know where that acid comes from in the rain? fuel emissions from england. england destroys the ecology of norway.
here's another little story, you know in japan there are a lot of rich japanese people who use 'disposable' wooden chopsticks? they can afford it, right so why not? japan has plenty of trees! WRONG! those chopsticks are all made from the wood of non replaceable trees taken from the brazilian rainforests. you haven't seen it so you don't give a shit but rainforests cover thousands of square miles in brazil and the brazilian government is not only allowing it all to be clear cut out of existence (which will kill us all regarding oxygen and so on i am sure you needn't be reminded) but they are trying to blame the clear cutting of the brazilian rainforests on its indigenous inhabitants, tribesmen who are being hunted into extinction by the brazilian authorities. the authorities are hispanic, the indigenous inhabitants are aboriginal south americans.
Do you see where this is going? i would not put it past you to think this is all irrelevant in which case, just line up against that wall over there with the others...
One country destroys another country's ecology. why do you think ethiopia is always having a drought? it wasn't this bad last century before all the 'first world countries' started their mass industrialism, coincidence? NO.
quote:I'm through with you....
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oh to have the luxury of a yank. some of us don't get a choice over who we associate with. i seem to get landed with trying to show the scum of the world that they have a moral obligation to consider the feelings of others. i am beginning to think this is a lost cause with americans and that maybe somebody should just carpet bomb the whole damn thing (a huge waste i know, of good people and of good land, but at least it'll get rid of the immoral majority).
quote:To the guy who said that I "am just an American who thinks the world owes me something." No one owes me shit. Even if I was Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Pope, I still wouldn't ask for anything.
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whoop dee doo. you see guys? how angelic these americans are, they don't ask for anything. BULL FUCKING SHIT. you'd be off crying to your government if america had to become totally self sufficient. even your beloved macdonalds meat is farmed in south america where it's cheaper.
quote:I am just tired of the American bashing from a bunch of people who neither myself, nor my country, has done anything to.
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we are all under your heel, yank, and the less you stir it up the better. not only that but NOBODY BASHED ANYBODY UNTIL YOU CAME ON WITH YOUR GUILTY CONSCIENCE AND STARTED SLAGGING OFF EVERYBODY IN THE PLANET BUT YOUR FELLOW ASSHOLES.
quote:What have we done to Australia? Or the UK?
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well australia is now a complete clone of the US, and the UK is now a convenient stopover for you to store your nukes in.
quote:Or France? What causes this angst toward America?
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americans do.
and while we're at it let me point out that this 'angst' is ALL IN YOUR MIND! there was no yank bashing until you came on and started acting the cunt.
quote:We, well at least I, treat these people as guests in my country when I see them, and more importantly, I treat them as friends.
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that's a start, now what about nonwhite nonfirst-world countries? do you cross to the other side of the street when you see those filthy arabs? do you petition your government not to let foreigners into your land of the brave and home of the free? would you rather see the whole of arabia bombed to its knees wiping out thousands of years of history and many innocent human lives just because you want to be part of the nation that polices the planet?
your president has not yet finished descending from the apes and you all follow him like sheep! how can you expect the respect you seem to demand from the rest of the world?
quote:Before you flame me,
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too late.
quote:put yourself in my shoes.
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are they size twelve? i'm size twelve (EUR 45)
quote:I have never been outside my country (with the exception of Mexico and Canada), and I have never, to the best of my knowledge, done anything to any of you. When I read the posts on this board like the McFucking McAmericans, and comments about my country, and the people in it (spoken in broad generalizations), it pisses me off.
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you speak in generalisations at least as broad. the arrogance of your nation makes people ready to see the piousness in your words.
quote:Sorry if my post was "one of the most profane posts that you have ever read", but I read the same type of horseshit from you people every day.
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no you don't, and that sort of holier than thou comment is just the reason that america is rightly regarded as the bully of the world. if you don't like it, vote in somebody who will do a good job, using your 'democracy'. You have a very guilty conscience if you seriously believe there is a lot of yank bashing on this site. and you're not sorry either, i bet. it's just another little tool so you can say how reasonable you are at a later date.
quote:And, no, Calum, it is not true.
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what? what's not true? just refuting me as a matter of course are you? in anticipation of any reply i might make?
quote:Not even 10% of it.
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10% of what????
quote:Obviously you've never been to America. And if you have, and you hold those sentiments, I am sorry you went to the place you did, and met the people you met.
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i have never been to the states. that has NOTHING to do with it. i am talking purely about the USA's presumtious, insulting and simple minded treatment of the rest of the world. those people that spend most of their lives in the states are much less likely then to know what americans are like. do you think i give a shit if americans are all lovely guys? no. i care that they are fucking up the planet. we don't have the luxury anymore of saying that americans are all nice guys underneath IT DOESN'T MATTER. what matters is that death and poverty are imminent and if we as a species don't stop serving ourselves (as the american dream tells us to) then we will die a slow and painful death and what's worse, we will take the earth with us.
quote:You guys need to practice what you are preaching.
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everybody needs to practice this.
quote:You bash Americans all of the time, for the stupidest fucking thing,
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how many times have you said this so far? are you trying to convince yourself it is true? well one more time then: NOBODY BASHES AMERICANS ON HERE. THE YANKS WHO TAKE OFFENCE HAVE GOT A GUILTY CONSCIENCE OR THEY WOULD NOT BE SO SENSITIVE TO NONEXISTENT CRITICISM.
quote:then someone comes in and gives you a dose of your own medicine,
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speaks shit, more like. you seem to think that you need to visit america to see how they treat people in the middle east, you seem to think your many imports do not count as 'asking' the world for anything. get a life and a grip, not necessarily in that order.
quote:and you all start sobbing like a bunch of girls.
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that was a very poor shot. even my scum remark was better than that, perhaps because it was from the heart. my points are mostly rational and are based in fact, perhaps that's what you meant by 'like a bunch of girls' since girls tend to have a more rational and intelligent approach than boys.
[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: Member # 81 ]
[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: Member # 81 ]
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