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Calum:
plus, can i just say, when i used windows 100% i pirated a lot of shit. it got to the point where i didn't have anything new that i wanted that i could pirate! (never got into windows games)

as it happens, there are alternatives that i prefer in linux for a lot of this stuff, and linux is really coming into its own now i am starting to think about programming, why does windows come with a bullshit media player, embedded browser, crap email client, shitty paintpad app and so on, when it doesn't even come with a single compiler?

anyway as it happens the only programs i use in windows now are either free, or they are ones i actually paid for: i paid for windows (a long time ago!), and Nero, and Sound Forge, both of which i use occasionally, and mozilla, opera, trillian, getright and so on are all free.

i think i've harped on for long enough, all i'm saying is there's no fucking excuse so stop coming out with this "poor man's revenge" bullshit and be honest about it.

lazygamer:
Ok I think im starting to see the point of this "pirating helps wind0ze" bit. I guess it's true, but I will not disrupt my lifestyle for ethics.

Calum:
maybe you will someday, however there are a lot more important things to get active about if you ever do...

flap:
I could never feel guilty for illegally copying software/music from people who aren't willing to distribute their software/music freely. I *do* feel guilty for downloading a Linux distro full of free software and giving nothing back in return.

Even if I am harming these people by not paying them, I really don't care. Microsoft, Adobe, Metallica and so on are all part of the problem and until they become part of the solution I won't comply with their wish that I should refuse to co-operate with other people.

Sure, they have every right to say "Fuck society, I have to make a living to make and this is a safe way to do that." And I have the right (well, maybe not the _legal_ right) to say "Fuck Metallica/Adobe, I'll do what I like with their music/software as they clearly don't give a shit about me."

And this is the kind of attitude that these copyright abusers engender. We all think "fuck the corporations" - and we should. Then on the other hand you have companies like Mandrake that people actually donate money to as if they were a charity. You don't generate this kind of good will amongst your customers by saying "Oh feel free to listen to my music/use my software but only under these terms that are designed to screw you as much as I can possibly get away with."

voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by flap:
I could never feel guilty for illegally copying software/music from people who aren't willing to distribute their software/music freely. I *do* feel guilty for downloading a Linux distro full of free software and giving nothing back in return.
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Don't feel guilty. They aren't asking you to pay them. And if you do pay someone you will likely not be paying the person you really mean to pay (the original programmer of the utility). If you have the money pay them. If you don't, don't worry about it. It is better for you to use Linux and not pay for it then it is for you to use M$ whether you pay for it or not. Any GPL coder would be happy if your choice were Linux over M$ no matter what.

 
quote:
Even if I am harming these people by not paying them, I really don't care. Microsoft, Adobe, Metallica and so on are all part of the problem and until they become part of the solution I won't comply with their wish that I should refuse to co-operate with other people.

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You still don't get it. You are not harming them by not paying. You are *helping* them and *harming* you. Please don't do it!

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