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www.unixsucks.com:
Ok, here is what I propose, let's make non biased decision about Windows2000 vs Linux based on number of securuity vulnerabilities. We'll just count no of vulnerabilities for last year for some "comparable" configuration.
Here is list for Windows 2000 server

1. OS
2. IIS
3. DNS
4. File sharing

Here is list for Linux (Debian)
1. OS
2. Apache, PHP processor
3. Bind
4. SSHD
5. Samba
6. NIS

Let me know wether it's fair or not.
I'd also assume that we are talking about average admin which installed what came with a system and did not make any additional attempts to secure system.

[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]

creedon:

quote:Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
Ok, here is what I propose, let's make non biased decision about Windows2000 vs Linux based on number of securuity vulnerabilities. We'll just count no of vulnerabilities for last year for some "comparable" configuration.
Here is list for Windows 2000 server

1. OS
2. IIS
3. DNS
4. File sharing

Here is list for Linux (Debian)
1. OS
2. Apache, PHP processor
3. Bind
4. SSHD
5. Samba
6. NIS

Let me know wether it's fair or not.
I'd also assume that we are talking about average admin which installed what came with a system and did not make any additional attempts to secure system.

[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com ]
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I'd say, from my (admittedly) uninformed perspective that it sounds fair, but I'd like to see the response time for fixes for each vulnerability, I think that might be a little more realistic in real-world conditions.
As I said, I have no training in this area; I would suggest that other forum members who are more informed express their opinion before such a comparison is made.

KernelPanic:

quote:How about making a peace?
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That sounds like a very good idea, the most sensible thing that you have ever said here infact. Unfortunately my Networking knowledge is limited and if I try to answer your question I will most likely make a fool of myself.
This is where we hand over to Voidman...   ;)

voidmain:
I have a better idea. Why don't we use your list from Linux and we'll use my list for Windows. Here is my list:

http://www.trustworthycomputing.com/

preacher:
Im not going to sit here and try to throw technical statistics at you, but rather mention the one reason that linux and especially the apache web server are so popular. Cost. Yes IIS is easier to set up, and yes it can handle larger loads than apache (I've read many comparison tests and agree), however apache and linux are more than capable enough to support huge sites and average sized sites. The added benefit is that they are free. You are quick to trash talk apache, however big sites such as www.ibm.com and www.apple.com use it. Last time I checked Windows 2000 advanced server was near $1000. That is by no means affordable, especially to the small time  websites. I can download any distro of linux for free and download the newest version of apache and Im set. For the money I spent on linux ($0.00), it is more than sufficient, in fact its excellent.

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