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being "professional" (long rant about corps vs employees as individuals)
Doctor V:
Your right! The Jimmy James / Bob deserves 6 stars. But the sad thing is, even though the corporations need the workers, with out social system, the workers need the corporations as well. Without the workers, the co. would collapse, but without the money from the company, the workers would starve. The corporate executives have enough money that if the company were to collapse they could still continue to live a happy life with their savings. All they need to company for is for even more luxury, even more things that they don't really need, but want for status. Note that in USA, and most of the western world money = status. So unions and strikes can help ease the suffering of the workers, it really does very little.
My theory: as technology advances, capitalism becomes less, and socalism becomes more suited for society. Here's why: With advanced technology, more work that could otherwise be done by people can be done by machines. This reduces the amount of work that needs to be done by humans in a society. Things that people need and want can be created more efficiently. This *should* give people more time to spend for themselves, doing what they want instead of working, and should make the things they want easier to obtain, make people both happier and more free. Under capitalism, this is prevented. In order to obtain that which one desires or is necessary to survive, one must have money, and money is controlled by a few elite. Those elite wish to keep as much of that money as possible, and give as little as possible to the general poeple. They attempt to as much as possible keep people from obtaining what they want or need without giving up their money to them. A good example would be a CD. With modern technology, they can be created by only a few people for a very small price. It would be entirely possible to sell CDs for less than 50 cents and still maintain profitability. Yet the business owners will not have it, they will do everything in their power to keep the cost as high as possible. They also do whatever they can to stop people from hearing music WITHOUT USING THEIR COMPANYS BUSINESS. Food and clothing are also kept at a very high price to ensure that the company controls it. Everything is kept at a much higher price than is necessary. Today most work done is probably unnecessary. It is often breauracratic in nature or service oriented. Or even as a result of a whimsical decision made by unqualified management. When the economy slows, why is it that people lose jobs instead of letting people keep their jobs, and just reducing the working day? Company Profits! Why is less work seen in society as a terrible thing instead of a chance for people to do what they want? Since that which needs to be produced is getting easier and easier, why isn't it getting any easier for the people to have? In fact, if a way is for people to get what they want is deemed too easy by business, the companys try to shut it down! In todays society it would be entirely possible for the working day to be cut almost in half, and to make it much easier for people to obtain what they want and need. Corporate power alone is what is preventing people from taking more control of their own time and having more of what they want. Were corporate power reduced, and more of that power given to the people *Socalism*, the world would be a better place. Today we are not nearly ready for the communist utopian dreams of some, that would require star trek like technology. But it is long past time for a major step in this direction.
WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!! :mad:
V
Kintaro:
Yes we do need a revolution, Corprate USA/Canada is not the problem. Its everyhting Corprate! What i really think is that we actually need to organise a riot in the center of new york! We need to go on a fucking rampage!
FUCK THE SYSTEM!
flap:
quote:Originally posted by Doctor V:
Were corporate power reduced, and more of that power given to the people *Socalism*, the world would be a better place.
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*shhh* don't mention the evil 'S' word; the americans don't like it.
That's right what you say about technology making socialism more achievable; in fact free software is an example of the perfect application of left-wing philosophy to an end that is practically useful to everyone.
Refalm:
quote:flap: *shhh* don't mention the evil 'S' word; the americans don't like it.
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Socialism, anarchism :D
But anyway, why? The United States got a socialist party too...
hm_murdock:
go socialism. capitalism is teh sux0r
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