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TAKING A BREAK FROM COMPUTERS: Politics
Laukev7:
quote:Originally posted by Paladin9:
If it wernt for that shit head Nader, Gore would have won. Now Nader just decided a day ago that he is going to run again! Democrats are really freaking out now, and so am I. Nader running again only increases the chance of Bush being re-elected. Its not like Nader has a chance in hell at winning anyway.
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Wow. You're blaming Nader for giving people the choice of voting for a candidate who reflects their ideologies better than the big parties? No one has to vote for Nader if they feel that their priority is to kick Bush out. I intensely detest that vile dirtbag and his companions, but wanting to deprive a candidate of his constitutional right to make a difference is quite hypocritical, considering that one of the major reasons that motivates people to kick Bush out in the first place is his unprecedented violations of the American Constitution.
quote:It's more likely that democrats will vote green than Republicans.
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Not all Greens are Democrats. Many of them would otherwise vote Republican because they want a party that takes action, as opposed to the 'all talk, act never' Democrats (at least in their opinion). Others are people who want a 'real difference' (again, question of opinion), or simply people who are Greens and would not vote for Democrats even if it were their only choice.
Paladin9:
quote:Originally posted by restin256:
Well, someone had their logic pills taken from them.
It's more likely that democrats will vote green than Republicans. Therefore, Gore lost the votes, not Bush.
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Thats what I said! And it not like I think people should not have choices other then the two major parties, but that in 2000 just a few days before the november election nader should have told people to vote for gore and not him since the 2000 primaries had shown that Nader did not have a chance. If Nader actually did well in this years primaries, then he should actually work at getting elected. Otherwise in november Nader should tell greens to vote for whoever the democrat is(likely Kerry) instead of him. In the California recall election, there were over 100 canidates! that means someone could win with only like 15%! Fortunately that did not happen, I think Arnie got around 50% of the vote.
All this crap is why I think there should not be political parties. Actually, George Washington warned against this but actually political parties were already forming not long before he died.
Laukev7:
quote:nader should have told people to vote for gore and not him since the 2000 primaries had shown that Nader did not have a chance.
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Why should he have stepped down? Why should he have endorsed Gore over Bush when he didn't believe there was a significant difference between the two parties? Sorry if I didn't follow the 2000 election too much, but how was he, or anyone, for that matter, supposed to know how bad Bush really was before he got elected? No one back then could have predicted the course of events, and neither could Nader have realised the consequences of Bush being elected.
Paladin9:
You are right that we did not really yet realize that bush has shit for brains, but I think that almost all of the greens would have voted for gore if nader was not running. All in all, there really is no solution to this problem I am talking about, becuase like you said, other parties should be able to run. Its just that I find it frustating that the left, as a whole, split there votes between two canidates while there really was no non-republican right winger as popular as nader. I just hope bush is not re-elected. I think Kerry or Edwards are ok but I am not totaly crazy about either one of them. Just no more bush!
hm_murdock:
quote:Wate until you see that Great_Satan idiot
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Wow.
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