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« Reply #15 on: 16 September 2002, 01:18 »
i hate to say it, but my computer refuses to auto play. i've taken so much time to learn about the install that this problem is becoming rather frustrating. any other clues as to how i can get around this?
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« Reply #16 on: 16 September 2002, 01:26 »
Does it not boot from the CD when you put the disc in the drive and then reboot?
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« Reply #17 on: 16 September 2002, 01:33 »
Open D:\autorun.inf in notepad, see what .exe it points to, then run that .exe yourself.
I think it is D:\dosutils\autorun.exe but check for yourself.
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« Reply #18 on: 16 September 2002, 01:36 »
okay, some discs autorun by themselves, but this one is not. i know i have the right discs, but it acts like it wants to autorun and then it stops.

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« Reply #19 on: 16 September 2002, 02:01 »
okay. i know what you mean about never getting cds to autorun in windows millenium. this is not your problem.

when you switch on the machine, your BIOS is what gets started first. it checks out if you have a bootable disk in the floppy drive, if not, it checks the cd drive, if not, it then looks on the hard drive.

you can change this order by going into the BIOS itself.

now, you should put the CD into the drive, then switch on your computer. watch it trying to load from the floppy, then watch it try to load from the cd drive. it should
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« Reply #20 on: 16 September 2002, 02:08 »
i have checked and rearranged the bios already. still nothing. i guess maybe i don't have the things burnt correctly but that doesn't make sense to me. i have the iso files. they are roughly over a gig and they are on three cds. i am under the impression that this is correct. maybe i should try to download them again, but i believe i have them already. so this is frustrating too. i think i'm at a loss.
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« Reply #21 on: 16 September 2002, 02:23 »
Can you browse the contents of the cd in windows? If you can it's burned ok. And, if so, do you have another bootable CD (e.g. a Windows CD) you could use to verify that your system can boot ok from cds?
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« Reply #22 on: 16 September 2002, 02:26 »
hmm. as i say, i'm not the person to really ask about the actual burning of iso files. i gather that the iso is a kind of container for the data which goes on the CD, and a cd burning program will kind of open up the iso file and put its contents on the cd, although we did have a guy on a few months ago who had inadvertently put the actual iso files on cds instead, which did not work.

the only thing i can do here, until somebody comes along who burns their own isos, like voidmain, or some other person, is to say to you, have a look at the site "LinuxISO.org" and check out the instructions they have for burning isos onto cds, and also, if you really are convinced you cannot get them burnt properly, then try going to "YourLinux.co.uk", they will burn you a copy of linux, and post it to you for next to cost price, anywhere in the world. There are bound to be similar services closer to your actual location, but they are the only ones i know about, i'm afraid.

hopefully someone will come along and help you out a bit better than this...
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« Reply #23 on: 16 September 2002, 02:31 »
i appreciate your help. any wisdom at all in this area helps me out. i probably didn't burn the cds correctly. i'll check it out through the links you posted. i am also currently downloading the program again just to make sure that it is not a corrupted file. thanks again...
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« Reply #24 on: 16 September 2002, 02:44 »
I can't tell if you tried browsing the CDs in windows.
If you can browse them, they're o.k. and if that is the case you may have to make a boot floppy using rawrite32.  Check your docs on how to do this.

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« Reply #25 on: 16 September 2002, 02:52 »
An iso is just a raw 'image' of a cd. The burning software doesn't know what files are in the image, or even whether or not it is a valid file system - it just burns the thing bit for bit onto the disc. If he can browse the cd in windows then it's burned correctly.
Did you try booting from another cd?
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« Reply #26 on: 16 September 2002, 03:06 »
HAH! i'll have to let you guys know about tjis continued affair later, as i figured out what my damn problem was. i feel stupid saying it, but i didn't even consider that my cd burner (built in) wasn't burning the iso's properly. so, i'm downloading one now and i'll have to reburn them and try that. unfortunately, i'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out.

i do have a question regarding lilo though. is this on the install disc, or at least an option in regards to dual booting. also, i figured i would just do the default recommended insallation since i'm brand new to linux and then work on the security features i've read about from there... suggestions? humor? laughs? nods? grins? etc...

thanks again
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« Reply #27 on: 16 September 2002, 03:26 »
HAH! i'm a screw up. i'll have to let you know how this goes tomorrow, as i do not have enough time today. i bet if i burn the iso's correctly, it'll work...

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« Reply #28 on: 16 September 2002, 03:39 »
quote:
Originally posted by big-hired assassin:
HAH! i'll have to let you guys know about tjis continued affair later, as i figured out what my damn problem was. i feel stupid saying it, but i didn't even consider that my cd burner (built in) wasn't burning the iso's properly. so, i'm downloading one now and i'll have to reburn them and try that. unfortunately, i'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out.

i do have a question regarding lilo though. is this on the install disc, or at least an option in regards to dual booting. also, i figured i would just do the default recommended insallation since i'm brand new to linux and then work on the security features i've read about from there... suggestions? humor? laughs? nods? grins? etc...

thanks again



There is no such option as "dual booting" during installation. Unless specified otherwise, LILO will be installed on the MBR of your hard disk. Don't worry about losing Windoze though, since you'll have an option "Windows" in the LILO window  ;) . I would also suggest to do the "experienced" installation and not the "recommended" one because it gives you more options. It's up to you though. Good luck with burning those ISO's this time and don't get discouraged   !

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« Reply #29 on: 16 September 2002, 05:04 »
okay, i downloaded a couple of programs that can burn iso image files. however, they weren't compatible without a bunch of upgrades. finally, i found fireburner, then i went to go get a cap'n crunch and voila... properly burned iso image files. i checked them out and they look great. now, i have to crash because i'm working tonight.

i am interested in the more experienced installation, but i am highly intimidated by it as well.

i'm not sure which options i'd be looking for, or if i'd do things correctly.

once again, thanks for all the advice and encouragement.  
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