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Calum:

--- Quote from: MrX ---oh yeah- and 'oh windows is so easy to use everything is soo hard'
all i am hearing is i like to rationlise things (aka just making a stupid excuse, therefore reducing your chances of success)

Mr X
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basically: yes.

windows is no easier to use than MacOSX, or KDE, or GNOME or XFce or Windowmaker et cetera, or even the Linux CLI (which i find 100% easier to use than DOS, or even windows a lot of the time) and the lesson to be learned from this is that people who think windows is easier to use... think so because they are used to using windows.

if a person is familiar with windows, then sure, the learning curve for everything else will be steeper than just using what you know, but once again, if that's something you are not prepared for, then you have to deal with the consequences of your choice, that's life.

pulsechild:
Well, I never claimed to be one of those people. I know how to use Linux. It isn't hard to use, its just that you have to learn all new commands in text-based mode. You also have to quit thinking Windows just because you can make it look like MSWin.

I will admit that when I first started working with Red Hat, I became frustrated with it. I nearly gave up until my mom bought me a book on RH9 and I actually sat down and read about how to use it.  Linux offers so much more than MSWin does and at a fraction of the cost - if not free. Linux, in my mind and in the minds of most everyone on the forums, is a superior OS than Win on the basis of  nearly everything. Its just that we live in a MS world. Most of us are brought up on Win and it just kinda sticks. We are too babied by them and look whos the bitch now? The average consumer.

Oh yeah, back to SP2.
My stepdad uses my computer to connect to NetWare servers. I didn't know that. Now I understand where that software came from.

This topic is changing, so Im going to move it into the software area and ask my question there.

Calum:

--- Quote from: pulsechild ---Well, I never claimed to be one of those people.
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good on you then, but your comments are similar to a lot of people who are those people!
--- Quote ---I know how to use Linux. It isn't hard to use, its just that you have to learn all new commands in text-based mode. You also have to quit thinking Windows just because you can make it look like MSWin.
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you do if you only know how to use ms windows, and if you expect everything else to be exactly the same (which would be silly, if it were exactly the same, it wouldn't be something else!). To me this is not a problem, learning things is a big part of what makes life worth living. it seems a lot of people don't agree though, and would rather stick with what they think they know (which seems to be forced upgrades, poorly functioning software they didn't want, and have to either pay for or find a crack for et cetera)


--- Quote ---I will admit that when I first started working with Red Hat, I became frustrated with it.
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me too, but i never considered giving up its use, the licencing implications of windows are just too prohibitive to go back to sucking its teat again, i still have windows installed on my home machines (as well as linux) but they almost never get used. to me, i prefer to use linux, it's now easier for me to use, as i can do a lot more in it than i can in windows, and i consider it infinitely more stable and secure. the windows systems on the two computers i have do not have internet access for example, they exist only for the one or two closed source programs that have win32 only versions out there
--- Quote ---I nearly gave up until my mom bought me a book on RH9 and I actually sat down and read about how to use it.  Linux offers so much more than MSWin does and at a fraction of the cost - if not free. Linux, in my mind and in the minds of most everyone on the forums, is a superior OS than Win on the basis of  nearly everything. Its just that we live in a MS world. Most of us are brought up on Win and it just kinda sticks. We are too babied by them and look whos the bitch now? The average consumer.
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well said. but it takes two to tango. it just gets my goat when people say "oh woe is me, i have to use windows, i didn't want to but now look, i know how to use it and i can't use anything else, there's no way out for me etc", because i have been in that situation and i know that there's nothing to learning some new things about your computer's operating environment. there are much harder things in life, that take a lot more effort, like keeping out of debt, taking responsibility for your own rubbish and pollution, keeping yourself in work and/or accomodation and so on (depending on circumstances i suppose).

might as well just say i'm not trying to argue here, in case that's how my "tone" comes across...

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