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MrX:
warning:

Kintaro:

--- Quote from: Orethrius ---The part that disturbs me is that one word you said.  "Liberal-national."  In power.  In the Senate.  Sound familiar?  Here's a hint: think back oh, about fifty years.  Switch the words around and substitute a popular political ideology for "liberal."  Get the idea?  Ideologies don't work on a national basis.  When one party is given absolute power anywhere, a state of fascism begins to take the reigns.  That is what the people of my country are working so hard to prevent here (given we're not as outspoken as we'd like, but we take out victories when we can).  Had Bush won, and gone on to disestablish both of the other two branches of power, he'd be a very dead man.  They may be shadows of their former selves, but they're still there, and that gives us hope for the future.
--- End quote ---

 I certainly see your point with that.

Civil Liberties will get worse, it is happening. This is how it always seems to happen, Civil Liberties get worse, and then as more people take action they get better and take us to the next level of freedom, often better then we were before.

That's just a slight observation and is not always the case.

However, if George W Bush gets assainated, then that will be just used as another scapegoat for the other leaders to get more power, and more control. I am more worried about that happening then anything, actually it seems like a very fine balance on the virge of a total collapse at the moment.

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