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Calum:
hey doesn't windows still use the TCP/IP stack from BSD? i thought most systems used the Berkeley code, except linux, for historical reasons.

and nobody says *BSD has a crap networking stack, do they?

muzzy:
Of course there's NDISASM a good open source disasembler for both Linux and Windows.

There's also a pretty good free (as in beer) live debugger for windows:  http://home.t-online.de/home/Ollydbg/

Ndisasm is fine, but it's quite rough and not practical for everyday tasks. Live debugging is also a lot easier approach to analyzing safe stuff than reading the cold disassembly listings.

WMD:

--- Quote from: Calum ---hey doesn't windows still use the TCP/IP stack from BSD? i thought most systems used the Berkeley code, except linux, for historical reasons.

and nobody says *BSD has a crap networking stack, do they?
--- End quote ---

Windows NT 3.1 used the BSD stack.  After that, MS rewrote most of it for some reason.  These days it doesn't act very much like BSD - the only artifact visible is that the HOSTS file is in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.

Kintaro:
* Windows is rude - The Windows Mixer does not even support modern soundcards properly it seems, in Linux the headphone socket has a seperate control to my laptop speakers. In public, like at the libary at school, it has been trouble with windows if the headphone becomes unplugged because my laptop has very loud speakers for a laptop.

muzzy:

--- Quote from: WMD ---Windows NT 3.1 used the BSD stack.  After that, MS rewrote most of it for some reason.  These days it doesn't act very much like BSD - the only artifact visible is that the HOSTS file is in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.
--- End quote ---


Apparently microsoft was embarassed that it has paid to a third party to get the BSD stack? :)

There was some talk that winXP changed their stack at one point, as the default tcp window size changed to look suspiciously like some BSD OS, but I can't remember details on this.

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