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What's your main web browser?
TB:
I'm a 100% Firefox browser now. I made the switch to Mozilla over 2 years ago and there's been no looking back whatsoever. Tabbed browsing + awesome security options = Mozilla owning IE. It's as simple as that.
JanusChrist:
--- Quote from: themacuser ---I use FireFox and Safai. Mainly Safari, firefox just isn't Mac-like yet.
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Ya know, you can get Themes for Firefox. Mozilla also has a browser built just for Mac called Camino.
muzzy:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Why do you think Internet Explorer is superior to FireFox?
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So, you want to know what I value in a web browser? First, I could ask why would it not be superior? There are only few UI issues that make firefox better, and those can be worked around with plugins. Perhaps, as a programmer, I see IE differently than you do.
One big bonus is being native to the system, which means I can do things that are impossible with Firefox. For example, can you have Firefox in a toolbar? Well, you can have mshtml rendered page there. Go ahead, right click taskbar and go toolbars->new, and type "http://microsuck.com/forums" as the directory. While this specific feature isn't critically important, it's just one of the many things that result from the design. In windows world, objects are more useful than applications.
Also, I like the rendering engine better. While it's true that mozilla renders CSS better, having done some little webdesign it blows mind how ambiguous some of the explanations are. CSS isn't very well specified, and trying to implement it will lead to implementation differences between different browsers. Obviously, such differences will be blamed on microsoft for no real reason, just because MS interprets things differently from others.
For things that matter, IE6 functions great, and I see no reason to use an alternative browser except for situations where braindead webdesigners have designed that the site will require flash and javascript to function at all, and for some reason I'm forced to use the site.
Aloone_Jonez:
From what you've said you find the integration with the Windows desktop useful. This is one of the main things most people dislike about Internet Explorer. What do you think of Konqueror's integration with the KDE desktop?
I prefer FireFox because of it's user interface.
Security - I can use web pages with Java without the worry of being connected to a premium rate number or get infected with spyware.
Speed - FireFox renders quicker than Internet Explorer.
Plugins enable me to add numerous extra features.
And it's still improving, FireFox gets better with ever release, Internet Explorer hasn't improved that much in many years.
As far as I'm concerned IE just lacks features, I use Opera every now and then for it's numerous features but for some reason I prefer FireFox.
Have you tried the latest versions of FireFox and Opera?
muzzy:
I assume firefox 1.0 is new enough, that's what I have currently. (yeah yeah, I should upgrade that, I know it has critical issues. hmph)
Anyway, I hate java applets. Java is mainly useful in the server side IMO, in form of servlets. Java on clientside is mostly useless, due to early versions being such crap and everyone having different versions. Also, I find the whole idea of applets horrifying, since they're mainly suitable for implementing single intelligent widgets, while people are using them as replacements for stupid widgets and full applications and whatnot. Nnngghhh. Painful.
Why would people dislike integration with the desktop? It's not like you have to use it. What comes to Konqueror and KDE, I don't have experience on that. I haven't used a KDE desktop in a long while and I've never had one on my own box. When I was running linux at work, I had fvwm2 desktop because that's all I needed. Anyway, you can't take the windows approach in *nix world without going for a lot of heavy technology. We'll see who laughs last, when windows is suddenly the performance king as linux kids try to implement COM/DCOM-like behaviour with ORBs, while still having to support zillion different RPC mechanisms since "linux is about choice" ;D
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