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Lord C:
Downloading OpenBSD (3.7snapshot) atm, gotta try this out on my dodgey server :)

Does anyone recommend the stable release, or the snapshot?
From my Debian experiences I usually download the latest snapshots, lol.

Also downloading the new Trustix.
Last version I had was 1.5

toadlife:
I am one of those dudes who loves the BSD's and has little interest in Linux. I also don't hate Microsoft and actually think their products (post 9x series) are good.

The BSD community is one of the reasons I like BSD. The focus in the community is building and using a stable/secure/powerfull UNIX operating system - not destroying Microsoft, or freeing all of the software in the world. Alot of the political BS you find in the Linux community is a real turn off to a lot of people, myself included.

 There is a quote from an unnamed site that I think sums up the feeling many BSD users have about the GNU/Linux community...  

"In the beginning, Linux was pretty cool. It was free (always a plus), had a rapid development cycle, a moderately knowledgeable user base, and a funny mascot.

 Then the pinheads arrived..."


NOTE: I'm not calling anyone here a pinhead, just pointing out the fact that the Linux user base has become dumbed down over the past few years.

Unlike, linux, you won't find all of the newest whiz-bang features in the BSDs. The development cycle is much slower than Linux, which I think is one reason why the BSD's are generally a more secure platform than Linux. The BSD's development teams don't focus on the desktop as much as the Linux dev team and Linux distro providers do, and as a result, running BSD as a desktop can be a painfull experience.

As for the topic's title, I would agree. I set up an OpenBSD box over a year ago to filter spam at my work. It's a old surplus PII 400 desktop we had laying around, and it bitch-slaps around 18,000 spam messeges per day. The box jsut runs, and runs, and runs. I've rebooted it only three or four times times this year - most of the reboots were at the beggining when I was still getting the configuration settled, and the most recent one was due to a power outage.

That uptime thingy is cool. I installed it on my DSL router, and I might throw it on the spam filter server at work.

Here is my router.

Calum:
in my experience, the BSD community is full of elitist arseholes that talk down to everybody (if they communicate at all). This is one of the reasons i prefer the linux community, they are infinitely more helpful.

That is not to say all BSD users or advocates are arseholes, but from a general point of view, even though they may still be a minority, i do think the arsehole quotient is considerably higher amongst BSD users than Linux users.

toadlife:
I case you havn't been there, bsdforums.org is a pretty cool community of BSD users. You can go there and discuss Linux and they won't bag on you and call you a pinhead or anything.  I've heard the 'elitist' description of the BSD community before, so it probably has some truth to it.

Calum:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---You can go there and discuss Linux and they won't bag on you and call you a pinhead or anything.
--- End quote ---

the very fact that you bill the above as a bonus kind of illustrates my meaning! :-D

i like unix.com actually for cross *IX stuff, thanks for the recommendation though! i hope people find it useful, stuff like that is always welcome.

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