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toadlife:
In case you guys were wondering where all this bullshit raw socket hysteria has come from, it came from self-professed "security guru", Steve Gibson.

Disabling RAW sockets on Windows XP was completely uneccessary, and will accomplish nothing int he way of security. Steve has been badgering Microsoft for years to disable RAW sockets in XP, and for years Microsoft stood up to him (correctly I might add) and refused, but for some unknown reason, they caved in, and ended up breaking raw socket support with SP2.

I've actualy had the displeasure of arguing personally with Steve Gibson on Microosft's BETA SP2 mailing lists back in July 2004. The guy is about as clueless about network security as they come, and he has 'dis-educated' thousands - perhaps MILLIONS of people about computer network security.

If you want to know about the person behind all of the raw sockets bullshit, visit this site.

M51DPS:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---Disabling RAW sockets on Windows XP was completely uneccessary, and will accomplish nothing int he way of security. Steve has been badgering Microsoft for years to disable RAW sockets in XP, and for years Microsoft stood up to him (correctly I might add) and refused, but for some unknown reason, they caved in, and ended up breaking raw socket support with SP2.
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When microsoft decided to write service pack 2, it was all about security. They even sacrificed a bit of compatibility by changing the way windows handles memory. All of these new ideas are just a desperate attempt to be as good as the competition, even if it means implementing a few bad ideas, to make their product better overall. Most users do not care about raw sockets anyway. Of course, you do not see Apple disabling standard features just for a little more security....

Jenda:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---If you want to know about the person behind all of the raw sockets bullshit, visit this site.
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Cool. A personnal bashing site. I'd love to have a few like that...

toadlife:

--- Quote from: Jenda ---Cool. A personnal bashing site. I'd love to have a few like that...
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It's very easy to do. Become a media whore, proclaim yourself to be an expert in an area that you have very little knowledge about, and then "educate" people on the said area.

Someone will set one up for you.:D

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