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Calum:
--- Quote from: KernelPanic ---You rant because stuff isn't working, but havn't asked us to help you with any issues.
Yawn.
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in fact he *instructs* (not asks) the reader *not* to suggest solutions (specifically linux)
you guys are wasting your time talking about linux to this windoid, he's too far gone. he belongs on one of those smartass windows loser boards moaning about this or that dll file changing from version 3657 to 3658 or some crap.
also, by suggesting linux to a windows user, you're breaking the new forum rules (or so i heard), you wouldn't want those moderators to get mad at you now! (trust me i know, and i have the memories of mild childish chastisement forever with me to prove it).
bedouin:
I first installed Linux in 1998 or 99, and used it off and on as my primary OS alongside BeOS and Windows. In 2002 I got sick of it and just bought a PowerMac.
The same idiotic Linux issues I had over 5 or 6 years ago are still happening today. Keep in mind I'm writing this message in Konqeuror on a machine with a fresh install of Debian, so it's not that I hate Linux, but there's a number of things still irritating me. Here are a list of issues I encountered while installing Debian a couple days ago.
[*]No video after the install completed, requiring a number of XF86COnfig tweaks. After video was working it was still not accelerated, and getting acceleration to work requires more trouble than I'm willing to deal with right now.
[*]The screensaver would freeze; display would fail to go to sleep. In another scenario, the display would go to sleep, but then wake itself back up for no reason. This has been resolved (I hope).
[*]The volume control in the KDE task bar doesn't do anything. To lower or raise my machine's sound I have to open the KDE mixer and adjust the PC speaker setting from there.
[*]Sounds did not work initially in GAIM, no matter which soundsystem I told it to use. I eventually told it to use a command with artsplay.
[*]While writing this message, Konqueror is intermittently locking up, probably because of the animated GIFs in vBulletin's advanced editing page; Safari would do this occasionally as well, though that's stopped after 2.0 (probably a KHTML issue).
[*]Sound in Rhythmbox did not initially work.
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The other issues I had are really not worth mentioning. The state of GUIs in Linux apps are still horrific. Things are not located in logical places, or are overly cluttered.
Notice most of my complaints are all desktop related. For server tasks Linux acts exactly as you'd expect (and better). My main point is that after 6 or 7 years Linux should be beyond these stupid issues.
As for the original poster's complaint that Linux needs a point and click installer, I think apt-get is even better than point in click, since I don't need to even find an installer file. When it comes to 'best desktop experience' OS X still wins over Linux and Windows. I still have no interest in using OS X as a server though, which is why I installed Debian on this machine.
WMD:
bedouin...isn't that Ubuntu on an iMac G3 you installed? Or is this a different computer? If it's the iMac then the video/sound and sleep problems aren't surprising, given the lack of attention given to Linux PPC. As for Debian on a PC, heh, that was never easy.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: Calum ---in fact he *instructs* (not asks) the reader *not* to suggest solutions (specifically linux)
you guys are wasting your time talking about linux to this windoid, he's too far gone. he belongs on one of those smartass windows loser boards moaning about this or that dll file changing from version 3657 to 3658 or some crap.
also, by suggesting linux to a windows user, you're breaking the new forum rules (or so i heard), you wouldn't want those moderators to get mad at you now! (trust me i know, and i have the memories of mild childish chastisement forever with me to prove it).
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Yes because you're so objective and good at looking at things from other people's perspective, you can obviously accept that people have different needs to your own and can see Linux isn't the god sent magic miracle cure for all of our computing problems.
I suppose Windows isn't the only operating system responsible for brainwashing people. :rolleyes:
bedouin:
I went with Ubuntu initially then decided for Debian instead. Same machine though. The Ubuntu live CD worked fine; the installer crashed for some reason (perhaps a bad burn or corrupted download; maybe it just hated that machine). I swayed from Ubuntu by then anyway, since it just seemed to be a simplified version of Debian, and I already had prior experience with Debian on x86.
Besides, in some respects Linux PPC is better supported than x86 Linux, since it's primarily run on Macs with very specific configurations.
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