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Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---OK, so I've said that writing some program and keeping it to yourself (greed) is evil.
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No doubt you or your parents are earning money and you/they don't share most of it, so how does this make them evil?
If I design something and I keep the designs to myself I'm being selfish but no more than anyone else who doesn't share everthing.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin --- Therefore, I won't support that program, instead I'll support/create an alternative to that program.
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Fair enough support what you want, I personally support any software that suits my needs and is generally excelent, and if it so happens to be free, then I'll go even more out of my way to support it.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Exactly correct. The fact that I would like to see non-free software eliminated does not mean that I'd even support some totalitarian policy to eliminate it, so don't assume so.
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Good, I'm gald you've made yourself clear on that one.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---I like the way things are hopefully headed - non-free software eating up market share bit by bit (people chosing it because the software is just plain better (and it will be better (I did say that this is the way things are hopefully headed.).), and hopefully because they like the philosophical end of it too.). And then, when the non-free software companies decide they can't compete, they make their software free.
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I have very mixed feelings about this, firstly I doubt this'll ever happen and I am yet to be convinced that it'll be the best thing for the economy or software in general. Making software free will reduce its cost drastically and as a result the programmers will get paid less so less people will want to become developers.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Nuclear energy isn't renewable. It has some other disadvantages - but they've already been discussed.
I'd like to see more renewable energy being produced in the future.
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I agree, nuclear energy should be used until we renewable sources are strong enough to support our needs.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---No doubt you or your parents are earning money and you/they don't share most of it, so how does this make them evil?
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To produce software, you write code. For non-free software, you keep this code to yourself and distribute the software in binary form. That is, by definition, selfish.
Money, unlike software, is essential for survival. You need a certain amount of it to pay for your needs, then maybe some more for whatever it is you want, and, sometimes, after that, at least in my opinion, some people do become greedy slash evil, unless they share a bit of their wealth (by giving to charity, for example).
Ofcourse some people will disagree - if you earn money you should be able to keep it for yourself. But when you consider all the problems in the world... At least in my books, any billionaire who hasn't given over INSERT_FIGURE_HERE to charity, is greedy slash evil.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---If I design something and I keep the designs to myself I'm being selfish but no more than anyone else who doesn't share everthing.
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For some people it just isn't possible to share everything - they just would not survive.
Different story for sharing software.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Making software free will reduce its cost drastically and as a result the programmers will get paid less so less people will want to become developers.
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I dunno if things, price-wise, would be much different from today in a mature free software economy.
skyman8081:
You are deserving of a hard slap across the face by the Invisible Hand
KernelPanic:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---blab
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I would respect this opinion far more if you actually had bills to pay.
Get over yourself, proprietary software is here for the long-haul.
Orethrius:
--- Quote from: KernelPanic ---I would respect this opinion far more if you actually had bills to pay.
Get over yourself, proprietary software is here for the long-haul.
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What you're saying is that those who have that viewpoint have no expenses, and thus no right to speak.
To that, I give my considered response: Bite. Me.
First off, all my balances are fucking RED for a reason.
Second off, if more people would SHARE, proprietary software wouldn't have the majority stranglehold it enjoys today.
That is all.
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