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Orethrius:
Godwin's Law!

Kintaro:
I give up.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---So what?
I've designed electronic circuits at work and guess what?
We aren't stupid enough to give our compeitiors all copies of the schematics.

The code for the firmware and PLAs is all a trade secret.

Our battery charging interface and support software for the PC is all closed source, we don't make much money on the software alone, we profit most on the hardware.

Wow!
what evil selfish bastards we all are! We invest time and money in our hardware and software and we fucking deserve to gain a healthy return on our investment. Why don't you fucking string us all up and send us to the gas chambers?
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I'm quite interested in electronics myself actually. I like that INSERT_SOMETHING_HERE you did in work, may I please have the schematics and the source for the firmware and PLAs? So I can learn how it works and mess about with it a bit?
No? You promised not to? Ah that sucks.

Now, how THE FUCK, is that not selfish of you and whoever it is you're working for? HOW?

I said that by definition it's selfish, and IT IS!

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---So, Microsoft share some of their money with charity.
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Um. What?
If they do, fair play to them (it doesn't matter I dunno why you brought that up). But they're still selfish (BY DEFINITION) for keeping all that code they wrote to themselves.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---That's because they hardly have enough for themselves and I agree they shouldn't be expected to share. I know it just doesn't seem right for some people to have plenty and some so litte (and it isn't) but that life for you, welcome to the real world you hippy luney.
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Oh yea, that's life. I almost forgot that. When anyone mentions changing it (some ppl with so much and some ppl with so little), lets bash them with "that's life"!

Bob Geldof (you luney hippy), let's leave things in Africa the way they are because THAT'S LIFE!

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---you hippy luney.
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You're the one that brought up sharing wealth whenever I was talking about sharing software, you hippy luney.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I'm not very well paid as I'm only an apprentice, I do donate some money to charity. I'm pissed off as I'm nearing the end of my apprenticeship and due to a problem at the company where I work there are no job vacancies for electronic engineers so I'm doing a shitty job at the moment (stock control) either until they find a decent job or I can get one some where else. People who develop software have also been in my situation before, (someone I work with has) your idea that people who develop proprietary software are greedy is palin worng.
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By definition they are selfish.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Oh no it isn't, if you depend on the software for your survival it's exactly the same principle. The bigest problem you have is you're thinking that all companies are like Microsoft. You're conveniently forgetting about the smaller developers here who don't make themselves filthy rich and only sell enough to survive which they struggle to do as they have to compete with the old Billy boy and now the GPL crew.
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Did you read those articles?

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Your logic has a major flaw, you think "Microsoft uses proprietary licences and they're evil therefore other companies who also use them are equally evil". This is pure rubbish, name one other software company that's even half as bad as Microsoft.
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WHAT THE FUCK?
What the fuck makes you think that?

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I'm sick to death of this naive attitude "Linux will have it's day", "the good will out and free software will prevail and crush these proprietary daemons", "capitalism will be brought down and we'll all live a life of piece, equality and harmony".
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I stated the way things were hopefully going.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---How the fuck are things at the moment suggesting this trend?
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GNU/Linux is bigger (in popularity) than ever.
We've got free alternatives to basically everything, and even if the non-free products have more features, using the free alternatives (and no non-free software) generally isn't a huge inconvenience.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Well I've got news for you they aren't going to chance, at least not in this lifetime, if you're right (and I doubt you are) it will be a very long time in the future, the tide hasn't even begun to turn yet and don't bet it will.
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The tide HAS begun to turn. Free software is making a huger impact now more than ever.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---People won't suddenly mass convert to Linux and there won't be a dramatic increase in free computer games.

[snip]

I doubt Bills empire will come crashing down any time soon and if you do then you're very naive indeed.
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So what?
I stated the way things are hopefully going (IMO). Did you like, skip over that or something?

Kintaro:
People who work at all could be considered selfish. I think personally that a person cannot be held accountable for the status of the selfish money grabbing world. However I think we should all try our best to do what we can (write free software, volunteer, edit wikipedia, give a brother a hand) to make this world a better place.

Hell even some of the most seemly selfless people can be seen as selfish.

MarathoN:
Yes, because everyone has their own fucked up opinions.

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