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Aloone_Jonez:

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How would I lose money by using GNU/Linux with only free software on my desktop and all the other desktops say in some web-design office I setup? The web-designers can use The GIMP for making raster images or editing some photos, Inkscape for the odd icon, and NVU if they're too noob for emacs, vim, gedit, or whatever.

In what areas in any type of business (not only web-design) would I be losing money? Or what job even?
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Alright here's a situation were I would loose money if I decided to use GNU/Linux, an electronics engineering firm. I could use Protel DXP running on Windows XP (I can't remember how much it costs but it's >

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---And of the software's you mentioned , only SDL is licensed under the GPL - and it's actually the LGPL. The rest are released under BSD-like licenses.

If your primary goal is adoption of software, then the GPL is not really the best choice.
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Definetly. But for RMS and like-believers, adoption isn't the most important thing.


--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Alright here's a situation were I would loose money if I decided to use GNU/Linux, an electronics engineering firm. I could use Protel DXP running on Windows XP (I can't remember how much it costs but it's >
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Jenda:
piratePenguin, I strongly agree with you. Free Software is the right way to go, no matter the results. Nevertheless, since the results are at least adequate, I will gladly force myself through a small amount of suffering (people laughing, extra work, extra things to learn (since when is this a bad thing?), having to give up certain services) to be a member of the Free Software Community. In addition to that, I find myself in a great advantage to all the local Win-Users, and even the Mac folks.

I must say I will miss your GNU avatar. I hope you plan to return to it yet.

Aloone_Jonez:

--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Wow, is it really that bad?

I've read the first half of volume one of these books. The person who wrote it is a lecturer, and the book is intended mainly for his students. The only software he teaches in it is SPICE. What an evil fucker!
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SPICE isn't very user friendly, and it's not just simulation there's PCB and mechanical design softaware for Windows that simply surpasses anything written for GNU Linux.


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---I'm not talking about sharing wealth or anything else but source code.
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It is if the author is relying on the source code for their wealth.


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Because when they rent you a house, only you can step foot inside the frontdoor.
I'm losing out on nothing.
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Since when have you rented a house from the aforementioned?
We're talking about software here, not renting accommodation.

I rest my case, the problem here is not proprietary software it's companies like Microsoft and the law giving them too much power. They should prevent companies from altering the licence agreement without written consent from the user but they should still have the right to with-hold the source code, limit the number of users and copying.

What you're suggesting is forcing the GPL on everyone which is more than communism, it's totalitarianism and how do  you plan to inforce this?

Software oten contains other media like music and films so if a company releases a computer game do they have to licence the music and films under the GPL to? Do they just have to release the source code? Can they keep everything else under a triditional proprietary licence?

Do you plan to implement different laws for differant kinds of information because currently the law treats all copywrites the same?

You obviously haven't though of the implications of software/data totalitarianism, you'd piss a lot of people off by telling them what they can release and what they can keep private. In the end Forcing the GPL would be more of an insult to humanity than any ELUA.


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---I'm losing out on nothing.
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You don't know what you're missing if you refuse to use a piece of software just because it isn't free, for all you know it could be brilliant and better than any free software, oh well that's just your loss.

skyman8081:


I updated my sig to be more offensive.

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