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piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---That's an interesting concept, my point of view is just because someone doesn't want their creation to be free it doesn't make them evil.
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I think that it does.
Imagine if non-free was all the go whenever that Ohm dude and friends were about.
Wouldn't it just be brilliant!
Kintaro:
Productivly open models are better than closed models.
Also, think of it that this is not your planet and that it is our planet and respect that and you will understand the importance of sharing is far greater than you seem to imagine.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---The thing is, IMO, that rewards should only come for commodities, and services, both of which require labor. I do not consider SW a commodity. If you're a programmer, you should, and still can using the GPL, recieve your cash as:
1)wage - in the case that you are employed (long-term) by a company that pays you to develop specific SW for them. Case Linus Torvalds, OSDevLabs. The company gains their $$$ from 2), 3), 4) and 5).
2)fees for tailor-ordered SW - if you develop SW for people with specific needs on a pay-per-developed-program basis. My sister's husband made a ton of cash that a company payed him TO develop a database system to suit their needs.
3)sales - nice-and-colourful media containing your SW, documentation and other, unrelated merchandise.
4)services - installation, support, registering to a network, a periodic update service (i.e. antivirus SW), etc.
5)donations
The actual usage of software doesn't cause you any more work - and therefore doesn't entitle you to a greater reward.
Now IF you choose GPL, as so many people have already done, you ensure that your program has a future: the more successful it gets, the more people will be willing to contribute. If you're mega-successful, some people might even pay you to develop your baby full time (Linus).
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But you don't make fuck all if all your profit has gone to someone else who has used your code for their gain.
And yes more money needs to be made than just enough to cover the packaging and programmers, more is needed to be invested to get more programmers on the job and you can choose the programmers and since you've made more money you can aford better coders too.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Why that would be absolutely wonderful! More choice for the users! More competition!
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Brilliant, shame about loosing all your customers to Redhat, too bad.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Don't think so. But that's not a bad thing (it is, of course, if you can't write shit. Or compete.).
"proposed", what?
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Version of the program, suppose your next version is better than Redhat's but theirs sells more because thier marketing strategy is better.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Nope. You might aswel develop Redhat's version, if it's any better.
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Too bad if it's shitt, anyway if you can't beat them then join them.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin --- And most of the time, Redhat and the like (also any programmers) don't make their own version (fork) of the software, they just develop it and submit changes to the maintainers (you).
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Now that would be fair but you've got no garantie that they're going to do this.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---He doesn't own it and it is not likely that any single entity ever will.
If he owned it all, he could licence future versions under another licence. But linux-2.6.12.5 will forever be licenced under the GNU GPL.
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Sorry, I forgot Linux isn't entirely his work.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---:eek:
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Think about it, the GPL removes the right for you keep your code private and not share it.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---WTF has this got to do with their wages FFS? This is getting annoying. Using a non-free licence doesn't make your wages any fatter.
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Oh yes it does if they have to pay
skyman8081:
piratePenguin, when you grow up, and get out of high school.
Maybe then you will see that not every solution works for the same person. And that people hate blind crusading.
I was a LOT like you when I was in your place. I genuinely believed what RMS said, then I grew up.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: kintaro ---Productivly open models are better than closed models.
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That isn't always the case, Opera has more features than FireFox, MS Office has a grammar checker Ooo has none.
--- Quote from: kintaro ---Also, think of it that this is not your planet and that it is our planet and respect that and you will understand the importance of sharing is far greater than you seem to imagine.
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Sharing is very important and I encourage it, but I fail to understand how not wishing to share everything makes you evil.
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