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worker201:
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I think you're using the word love too much, I don't love my computer, I don't love my stereo, I don't even love my car for fuck sake, what's you obsession with love? Just because you use something it doesn't mean you love it.
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You know, I used to think the same way. But then I got an Apple. And I absolutely love it, even 2 years after opening the box. I think everyone ought to experience the joys of ownership and companionship that come free in every Apple box. It occasionally clouds my judgement of what computers are and what they could/should be. That's not a bad thing. I think the IT world would be a much better place if more people cared about their computers.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Oh yeah inferior open source replacements. :rolleyes:
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Just a reminder, that open source replacements are not always inferior. In fact, I haven't used an open source program yet that can be compared feature to feature and design goal to design goal with a popular proprietary program. They are different, and they may not do exactly what you want them to do or expect them to do, but I think 'inferior' is an inappropriate word to describe this.
WMD:
--- Quote ---That's a fair point to, but it's not entierly their fault that they don't support other platforms as they probably don't know any better and even if they did they wouldn't support Linux because of the Linux fanboys hate of proprietary $oftwarez.
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I'm a Linux fanboy. And I love it when I get to try out some proprietary software for my OS. I see it as a sign of better support for it. I frequently use the nVidia X driver, Opera, VMware, and RealPlayer (which, btw, is much better on Linux than on Windows). I think the above software makes my Linux usage more enjoyable, and I'd love it for more companies to join in. I don't necessarily prefer such software over open-source, but it's always good to have and work with. The only time I dislike proprietary software is when the owner of it uses that proprietary nature to further its own interests (other than simple business profit and advancement, of course).
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: WMD ---The only time I dislike proprietary software is when the owner of it uses that proprietary nature to further its own interests (other than simple business profit and advancement, of course).
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I couldn't agree more. :thumbup:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---The only time I ever see this "Winblow$ Xpee" crappy-speak is from yourself and skyman. Noone else here, other than the occasional troll, uses it.
We're generally more professional than "Winblow$ Xpee B$ODomize$", so either you'd better get your eyes checked, or have a bit of respect.
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My point was I'm sick of hearing how Windows is supposidly unstable and how it's inherrintly insecure when neither of which are true if you know what you're doing.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Most GNU/Linux distributions ship with Java and all sorts of other non-free stuff. And when they don't, the first thing 90% of it's users do when they've installed the distribution is install Java or some other non-free software that they want.
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Fare enough, I suppose I shouldn't have lumped all Linux users in the same pile as the hardcode GNU fanboys like yourself, can't you see? You're attitude to proprietary software is actually giving Linux users a bad name.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Er, I'd assume the wine guys would be in alot of legal trouble if they used that code.
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I didn't mean to imply they should directly rip the code, they'd only need to examine it and get an idea of what all the hidden APIs do and write their own inplementations and if the Windows code is really that crap then they would rather not use it anyway.
--- Quote from: worker201 ---You know, I used to think the same way. But then I got an Apple. And I absolutely love it, even 2 years after opening the box. I think everyone ought to experience the joys of ownership and companionship that come free in every Apple box. It occasionally clouds my judgement of what computers are and what they could/should be. That's not a bad thing. I think the IT world would be a much better place if more people cared about their computers.
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How evil you love some proprietary software!
--- Quote from: worker201 ---Just a reminder, that open source replacements are not always inferior. In fact, I haven't used an open source program yet that can be compared feature to feature and design goal to design goal with a popular proprietary program. They are different, and they may not do exactly what you want them to do or expect them to do, but I think 'inferior' is an inappropriate word to describe this.
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This depends on the software and you what you expect from it. In my opinion if I'm using one piece of software that fulfills all my needs and I switch to another that doesn't then that piece of software is inferior as far as I'm concerned.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Fare enough, I suppose I shouldn't have lumped all Linux users in the same pile as the hardcode GNU fanboys like yourself
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Damn right.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---can't you see? You're attitude to proprietary software
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My attitude being: I won't install non-free software on my computer so long as I can help it. And fortunetly there is plenty enough free software about the place that I can help it.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---is actually giving Linux users a bad name.
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OK so obviously you see my attitude towards non-free software as a bad thing. Hold it against me, not against anyone else, especially the "Linux" advocates.
Some amount of Muslims have been involved in terorist activity (bad), don't hold that against every Muslim in the world (especially the Christian-Muslims :P).
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I didn't mean to imply they should directly rip the code, they'd only need to examine it and get an idea of what all the hidden APIs do and write their own inplementations and if the Windows code is really that crap then they would rather not use it anyway.
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I dunno if they're allowd to or what.
worker201:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---(especially the Christian-Muslims :P).
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