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Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?

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Kintaro:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---Bottom line: RMS is a dipshit.

This idiotic statement proves how out of touch he is with reality. Studies have shown that the birth rates are higher in countries where the citizens are more oppressed by their governments. For example, in the US and many European countries, the birth rate is right about even with teh death rate. In the US I think the death rate is actually slightly HIGHER than the birth rate.

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United States:
Birth rate: 14.14 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)

 Death rate: 8.25 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)

Wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States



--- Quote --- The only place where the birth rates eclipse the death rate are places like China/India and the middle east where the governments continually fuck their citizens in the ass with idiotic laws and regulations - like the "one child law".
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China:

Birth rate: 12.98 births/1,000 population (2004 est.)

 Death rate: 6.92 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)

You are obviously the one who is out of touch with reality. The fact is China is overpopulated and something needs to be done about that. I think the one child law makes sense, and is reasonable. If you don't like that, go to another country.

toadlife:
The stats I remember were from a few years ago. Perhaps they have....changed?

toadlife:
I think piratePenguin is right....

http://www.prb.org/Content/NavigationMenu/PRB/Educators/Human_Population/Population_Growth/Population_Growth.htm

http://www.prb.org/Content/NavigationMenu/PRB/Educators/Human_Population/Future_Growth/Natural_Increase_and_Future_Growth.htm#transition

...population grown has more to do with development of countries. I think the connection to people being opporessed may jsut a coincedence, as less developed countries tend to have more opporessive governments.

Anyhow, my point was that thinking these laws are justified is idiotic, as a more productive way of controlling population growth is to try and promote economic development (i.e. give people something to look forward in life other than fucking) rather than legislate how many children people are allowed to have.

Just look at the fruits of China's "one child law"...

http://www.ezilon.com/information/article_10033.shtml

toadlife:
Hmm Kintaro. the numbers you posted for the U.S. birth rate were a suprise to me, but I just realized why the United States' birth rate is so high compared to other developed countries.

Immigrants.

Every year in the US 500,000 people come to the U.S. from Mexico alone. They bring with them a birth rates of 21/1000 - and it is probably much higher since the people that come from Mexico are from less developed parts of the country. Other places like Asian coutries also provide a smaller but consistent influx of people from countries with high birth rates. The fertility rate of Caucasians in the state I live in is 1.7/1000 - which is well below the replacement level which is 2.1. You will find that overall birth rate is actually below replacement level in many European countries that don't get the influx of immigrants that the U.S. does.

Kintaro:
No shit, now, what is your point?

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