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piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Pathos ---and who created God?
I'm christian myself. But really you can't prove or disprove whether a god/deity exists or that our universe is just one of an infinite number of universes. Either theory is perfectly acceptable .
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I never tried to, or claimed that I could.
Here is an interesting article I recently found about Roman Catholicism.
worker201:
The concept of god is a little story that primitive people use to explain away their fear of death. Religion is nothing more than assholes using this fear to control other people. Really. Even Wiccans and Satanists are pushing a certain type of morality. Most religions are just about devoid of spirituality, and are therefore worthless to the modern man who can see that god and religion were constructs he produced to entertain himself while waiting until the universities opened up.
Pathos:
And the infinite universe theory is a desperate attempt to explain how a universe that can produce living beings is possible given the near impossible odds without involving a third party.
Religion is not used to control me, I can ditch christianity whenever I fell like it.
Ahhhhhhhhh, You're just trying to suck us in to keep this stupid thread going....
@PenguinPirate: That second bit was just general babble, not directed at you specificially.
Refalm:
--- Quote from: Pathos ---And the infinite universe theory is a desperate attempt to explain how a universe that can produce living beings is possible given the near impossible odds without involving a third party.
Religion is not used to control me, I can ditch christianity whenever I fell like it.
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In some parts of the world, religion controls the people. For example in my country in the 50's, you couldn't get a decent job in Southern Netherlands, unless you where a Catholic.
There where almost no state run schools, only Christian.
worker201:
Regardless of how the state uses religion, religion is still used to control you. Christianity has a pretty complex list of things that one must do or must not do in order to find salvation. "Thou shalt not kill" is not a suggestion, it is a law. Now, admittedly, the 10 Commandments are pretty decent and civilized laws, except for the whole "no other gods before me" thing, and the "lord's name in vain" bullshit. Okay, so like maybe 5 out of 10 are good laws.
Additionally, if you are a Christian, you are expected to attend worship services on a regular basis - if you don't, you're somehow less Christian - the bible not only tells you what to believe, but how to believe. There is a priest/minister who is "in charge" of the congregation. This guy is further subject to a whole heirarchy of jackasses - in the case of Catholicism, this goes all the way to the pope, a guy who has special powers to talk to Jesus directly. Thus, being a Christian implies aligning yourself within this heirarchy. This heirarchy is ALWAYS pyramidal, with the normal people at the bottom and the powerful at the top. By kneeling down to pray, you pass your freedom and responsibility not only to god, but to some rich powerful Italian as well.
If neither of these qualify as examples of any reasonable definition of control, let me know, and I will gladly take it back.
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