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Kintaro:
Death, when you die you go into this dream like state of euphroia and bliss, it doesnt matter how bad a person you are, it doesn't count. I have been there before.
Orethrius:
Jack, you seem to get the whole concept of 攻殻機動隊 (Kokaku Kidotai), which I lack the knowledge (I would argue that all do, but that's best left for another day) to affirm or deny. Kintaro, narcotics don't count - you still have cognitive thought processes whilst high, even if you don't notice them.
H_TeXMeX_H:
--- Quote from: Jack2000 ---about the:what makes you ... YOU!
well what makes you ... YOU is(or should I say are) your memories
even if you can clone yourself with your memories ... if you can not
transfer your thoughts as in the exact moment you will cease to exist
your exact "self" (should if you want) will cease to exist
making a copy of yourself is not the answer.
the only way to live forever is to go digital...
by transferring your memories and your brain impulses into some
kind of "brain/flesh simulator" you can achieve true immortality
it is not the atoms it is the "mind"/"soul"/"electricity"/"whatever"
that makes you ... yourself
ps:the idea of karma is totaly wrong!
just in case you bring that up
--- End quote ---
Your thoughts are just electrochemical signals made up of ions, neurotransmitters and the like ... they are saved along with the rest of your atoms. There is no such thing as a soul or karma ... I'm not Buddist or Hindu either. If you figure out a way to
"transferring your memories and your brain impulses into some
kind of "brain/flesh simulator"" ...
you may become very rich ... but it will never happen because I am right :D
If you missed the point, I'm trying to remove any notion of a 'soul' or anything that is not present in the real world
Jack2000:
the soul
as in ghost type of soul
ugh ... no ... it is scientificly impossible
plus if the soul keeps all the info (memories)
then why if the brain is damaged you can lose some info (if not dead already)
so we all agree ghost/soul is a bogus theory ?
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: X11 ---What about dinosours?
--- End quote ---
Exactly, I was being sarcastic.
--- Quote from: X11 ---Death, when you die you go into this dream like state of euphroia and bliss, it doesnt matter how bad a person you are, it doesn't count. I have been there before.
--- End quote ---
What an ironic theme for (possibly) your last post?
I've never had a near death experiance so I don't really knoe but I've read about this and spoken to people that have so I'm reasonable sure of what happens when we die.
For one you're not a bad person but I agree with this anyway. When your brain is dying it endorphins are released creating a state euphoia and bliss, neurons fire at random thus invoking thoughts and memories (people often say "my whole life flashed before my very eyes"), this is followed by permanent unconsciousness - you're dead. Death in itself isn't painful it's what happens before that's often torture.
Having said all of this there is still one big gap in the theory: some people have outer body experiances when they look down on themselves on a hospital bed and watch the nurses, doctors and surgeons trying to resuscitate them. My father has experianced this, I don't know how this can be explained, imagination maybe but there again he could recall some details of the procedures carried out on him. Perhapps he's been watching too many hospital TV dramas, maybe his sole was escaping his body. I'm tempted to believe that the mind regains some form of consciousness before death - I don't know and I suppose when I do find out I'll won't be able to tell anyone.
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