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Aloone_Jonez:
Either way you can't force people to pay for free software unless it isn't completely free, for example some open source games where the program itself is free but the art and sound are copyrighted.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Either way you can't force people to pay for free software unless it isn't completely free
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Correct, you can't "force" them to. But you can ask them to.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
the program itself is free but the art and sound are copyrighted.
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"Free" doesn't mean public domain. Either you're really really stupid or that's a mistake (I believe it's the latter).


EDIT: And what has this got to do with what I was saying or what we were discussing?

Aloone_Jonez:

--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Correct, you can't "force" them to. But you can ask them to.
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And they can always say no.


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---"Free" doesn't mean public domain. Either you're really really stupid or that's a mistake (I believe it's the latter).
--- End quote ---

No mistake and no stupidity either, the GPL states that the source should be available to everyone. I know you could just sell people CDs with the binary + source but you couldn't stop them from releasing the sourceto the publiuc domain (i.e. putting it on their website) unless you're advocating semi-copyrighted material or shared source (like some agreements between governments and MS or open source games with copyrighted art and sound or Linux distros containing a proprietary element) all of which aren't completely free.



--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---EDIT: And what has this got to do with what I was saying or what we were discussing?
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Are you taking the piss?
Read the post you were origionally replying to.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---And they can always say no.
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And I thought if you asked someone to do something they had to do it.

(I was being sarcastic there, just incase you didn't realise.)

I'm not fucking retarded, sheezus!

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
No mistake and no stupidity either, the GPL states that the source should be available to everyone. I know you could just sell people CDs with the binary + source but you couldn't stop them from releasing the sourceto the publiuc domain (i.e. putting it on their website) unless you're advocating semi-copyrighted material or shared source (like some agreements between governments and MS or open source games with copyrighted art and sound or Linux distros containing a proprietary element) all of which aren't completely free.
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Okay so it wasn't a mistake, just plain stupidy, as you shall see:

--- Quote from: you ---the program itself is free but the art and sound are copyrighted.
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Most likely it'd all be copyright, not only the artwork. The program would be protected by copyright too, in most cases. According to you it isn't.

An intelligent being would've written more along these lines:
The sofware is free (as in freedom), but the artwork has a stricter license preventing redistribution/whatever.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
Are you taking the piss?
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No.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Read the post you were origionally replying to.
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JARULES? Err, I don't think you were commenting on his post. So just answer my question, simply.

Aloone_Jonez:

--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---The sofware is free (as in freedom), but the artwork has a stricter license preventing redistribution/whatever.
--- End quote ---

Yes that's what I meant.

*sigh* all this shit over words. :rolleyes:


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---No.
JARULES? Err, I don't think you were commenting on his post. So just answer my question, simply.
--- End quote ---

You.

Alright, I suppose you're simple so I'll simply paraphrase the last few posts:

Jarrules was reffering to the price of Linux and you explained that it's about open source and fredom rather than cost (which it is). I explained that unless you place at least part of the software or data associated with it under a more restrictive license people don't have to pay you to use your software if they don't want to.

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