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Linux vs Windows a real life comparison
toadlife:
--- Quote ---I imagine that if GNU/Linux had 50% market share, at least a few more crackers would start targetting it. However, I don't think, and I don't see any reason to think, that the situation would ever (100% market share, anyone?) be as bad as Windows has ever been (wanna gimme one, toadlife?).
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lol. You just said it...100% market share. But, yes Windows in it's current incarnation will allways more dangerous by default than other OSs due to admin accounts being created by default. But as I said, the only benefit malware makers have with root access is the ability to install rootkits. This ability is nice, but hardly neccessary. Microsoft could write the most secure, flaw free, locked down OS on the planet, and it won't make a huge difference because of the sheer amount of dummies who use their products. I'm sure Vista will be much improved, as far as defaults, and will probbaly contain less flaws, but I'm also equally sure the Windows malware train will continue to roll right through it.
--- Quote ---Windows doesn't handle security all that well be default, big problem for it's mostly-retarded userbase, as well as it's small intelligent userbase who will be targetted by more crackers through more cracked Windows computers.
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I agree, but as I said, I don't think more secure defaults will keep the dummies from screwing things up. WHat's the saying, "Never underestmate the power of stupid people in large groups."
--- Quote ---It seems to me as though all hints are pointing to "GNU/Linux will be much safer than Windows in a 50/50 market"
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Replace "much" with "slightly" and I might agree with you.
cymon:
--- Quote ---how can you install programs using a restricted user account ? You can't ... at least not most programs
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You can do that in OSX. Those bundles don't have to be in Applications, they can go wherever.
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piratePenguin:
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I agree, but as I said, I don't think more secure defaults will keep the dummies from screwing things up. WHat's the saying, "Never underestmate the power of stupid people in large groups."
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Still, you have to think about the not-completely-dummy people and the kinda-dummy people and everyone else. Some people will be stupid enough to plaster their root password at everything that asks for it, and some will be slightly more cautious.
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Replace "much" with "slightly" and I might agree with you.
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KO, "GNU/Linux would be safer than Windows in a 50/50 market".
toadlife:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---KO, "GNU/Linux would be safer than Windows in a 50/50 market".
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I never said it wouldn't - just that linux would have more than enough problems of it's own. This theortical 50/50 market, would require the installation of programs and drivers to be much more ubiquitous in linux than it is now. This would make it even easier for n00bs to screw things up. Also, what's to say future versions of Windows won't solve the major default config problems it faces today, this putting it on equal ground with other OS's?
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: toadlife ---I never said it wouldn't - just that linux would have more than enough problems of it's own.
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It might have more problems than it does now, but they certainly aren't security related.
--- Quote ---Also, what's to say future versions of Windows won't solve the major default config problems it faces today, this putting it on equal ground with other OS's?
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Good for Windows if/when it happens, but right now it doesn't matter. Right now is what we're interested in.
Anyone who claims that GNU/Linux would be as bad with malware as Windows is if it had Windows' share of the market (which is mostly made up of super-Windows-users browsing around the internet) takes defaults with retards too lightly.
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