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Kintaro:

--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---You're talking about bittorrents, right? The reason they are legal is not because the government does not see it as stealing but because the sites themselves do not contain copyrighted material.
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Exactly, I would be really pissed off if bittorrents were made illegal along with any P2P because they also provide a great medium to find legal material. For example I know a lot of musicans like myself who use soulseek to share their own demos freely.

Annorax:

--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---You're talking about bittorrents, right? The reason they are legal is not because the government does not see it as stealing but because the sites themselves do not contain copyrighted material.
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Things are a little different in the US... the "made available" clause of the DMCA makes torrent file providers liable as though they'd provided the actual copyright material.

Kintaro:

--- Quote from: Annorax ---Things are a little different in the US... the "made available" clause of the DMCA makes torrent file providers liable as though they'd provided the actual copyright material.
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Same here in Australia, we follow the DMCA and personally I feel it is quite stupid. Especially when people try to carry out DMCA action on search engines like google, which has been done in the past.

ghostofra:
I use LimeWire and BitTorrent to download songs and albums but after i am done listing to them and decide that yes i do or do not like this artist/album i head out to FYE and buy me the album or single and delete the mp3's. So is P2P relly that evil if used responsbly and not taken for granted?

Refalm:

--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---You're talking about bittorrents, right? The reason they are legal is not because the government does not see it as stealing but because the sites themselves do not contain copyrighted material.
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No, I'm talking about that it's legal here to download off all P2P networks. It's however illegal to upload.

I don't think it's stealing because the money from CD sells does not go to the artist directly anyway, they still need record companies to get famous or to distribute CD's.
I believe it works in the intrests of music artists if they found ways to distribute their music independantly from record companies.

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