Author Topic: MS ends MSIE on OSX  (Read 1956 times)

_kill__bill

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #15 on: 18 January 2006, 22:59 »
Problem is, if IE no longer exists for the Mac, then the massive amounts of broken browser detectors might actually do some serious harm for the Mac.
 
Think.
 
Which is going to win: the broken detectors/composers pushed on us by Microshit, or the standards-complient browsers that won't render broken pages?
 
I've heard rumors that Microshit is deliberately making the web composition programs and browser-detection scripts work only in IE.
 
This could either kill IE or the Mac. Smart money is on Microshit. Honorable moneys on the Mac.
 
I think I'll be smart on this one.
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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #16 on: 19 January 2006, 00:18 »
The mac has run just fine without IE, and will run fine after. IE for the Mac is rarely used, unless you're running OS 8.1. Even MS recommends you use Safari.

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #17 on: 19 January 2006, 00:35 »
Quote from: _kill__bill
Problem is, if IE no longer exists for the Mac, then the massive amounts of broken browser detectors might actually do some serious harm for the Mac.

Uh, that doesn't make much sense.  Since browser detectors run by ID rather than OS.  What kind of fuckhead would detect browsers based on OS?  What would the point of that be?  Safari, as far as I know, announces itself as Safari.  Mozilla announces itself as Gecko (I think Opera does as well).  IE announces itself as IE, or Gecko, depending on how the detector works.  Each announcement comes with a version identifier.  A browser detector could use a simple JavaScript to determine whether the browser was IE Mac or IE Windows.  And any mods made for IE Mac would be ignored anyway, since nobody would be using it anymore.

It seems to me like dropping IE Mac support was a smart move, designed to get out of a losing market (a bottomless pit, thanks to Safari), and save a little money for the warchest.  There hasn't been a new version in years anyway, I think they pretty much gave up on it a long time ago, and are simply making it official.

Now, when Microsoft uses all it's .net C# and J# bullshit to refuck the web and turn it to evil, then they might start gunning for browsers AND platforms.  If that ever happens, then we'll be fucked.

Or am I the idiot who isn't thinking clearly here?

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #18 on: 19 January 2006, 03:34 »
Opera can announce itself as IE, Opera, or Mozilla (Gecko) ... I set mine to IE ... it looks kinda strange for the danasoft signatures .... it says I'm running IE on Linux ... nah just Opera identifying itself as IE :D

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #19 on: 19 January 2006, 19:10 »
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Opera can announce itself as IE, Opera, or Mozilla (Gecko) ... I set mine to IE ... it looks kinda strange for the danasoft signatures .... it says I'm running IE on Linux ... nah just Opera identifying itself as IE :D

You shouldn't do that.  If you like Opera, you should be proud of it.  And you should let Opera have a fair idea about how many people are actually using it.  Perhaps if more people were honest about what browser they were using, the numbers in favor of IE wouldn't look so damn daunting.  Besides, when you identify as IE, the site will run broken-ass code for you because your browser can handle it.  By identifying as IE, you are telling these half-assed designers that using bullshit code is okay.  Which any web professional knows - it is not okay.  So be honest.  Be proud that you are using Opera.

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #20 on: 20 January 2006, 03:06 »
If you say so I will ... I rarely use it though ... like when there is a page Firefox can't handle I switch to Opera ... I'm a Firefox fan so most of the time (98 %) my browser (Firefox) is reporting Mozilla/Gecko :D ... but I'll switch the Opera identity to Opera like you say :thumbup:

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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #21 on: 20 January 2006, 03:34 »
Shit I've currently got Opera set to IE, I think it's the default setting which is pretty retarded.
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Re: MS ends MSIE on OSX
« Reply #22 on: 20 January 2006, 14:08 »
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Shit I've currently got Opera set to IE, I think it's the default setting which is pretty retarded.


They do that because some sites used to (and still do?) ONLY serve the webpage if you have IE.

I haven't seen any of these sites in the last 2 years though


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