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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #15 on: 6 January 2006, 20:42 »
Well ... doesn't it also mean that they have more money to throw around and get thing patched up and secure and working ... no ... Bill pockets it all and leaves his customers to deal with these minor issues ...

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #16 on: 6 January 2006, 21:34 »
If money is the answer, why do other companies like Oracle which also have billions of dollars have much worse security records than Microsoft?
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #17 on: 7 January 2006, 00:48 »
Interesting turn of events - by using Linux, I am helping my mother's Windows computer become more secure.  More of you people need to switch to Linux - eventually, my mother will have a spyware-free environment.
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #18 on: 7 January 2006, 01:21 »
And then developers of spyware will switch to the linux platform amd then you have the same problems with linux that you had with windows...
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #19 on: 7 January 2006, 01:29 »
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And then developers of spyware will switch to the linux platform amd then you have the same problems with linux that you had with windows...

So then you switch to another OS again.  And the cycle continues... :D

But seriously, everyone always says that if Linux had Windows's marketshare, it would have lots of viruses.  But that idea misses something - how about nothing has such a marketshare?  I'm really interested in knowing what the threat would be in Windows, Linux, and Mac OS were each given a third.
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #20 on: 7 January 2006, 10:17 »
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So then you switch to another OS again.  And the cycle continues... :D

But seriously, everyone always says that if Linux had Windows's marketshare, it would have lots of viruses.  But that idea misses something - how about nothing has such a marketshare?  I'm really interested in knowing what the threat would be in Windows, Linux, and Mac OS were each given a third.

This is just the opinion of a "Microsoft shill", but...

I think all three would have malware problems, but they wouldn't all be equal. For example, right now, if WinXP/Linux/MacOSX all had 33.333% marketshare, Windows would have worse problems because they all run as admin users. Linux and Mac users would still get their boxes rooted sometimes - but only the real dumb ones who type in their admin/root password when the malware asks for it would have it happen to them.

The Linux security spokesperson would place blame the users and say they should have been running firefox chrooted/sandboxed (after all it only takes a forty minutes to set up using the fifty-two page HOTO at the linux doc project wensite) while visiting sites like butt.crack.ru.

The Apple security spokesperson would tell the Apple users that the malware problems they were experiencing really didn't exist, but if they were still concerned about security they could upgrade to the upcoming OSX 10.1.3.5.1 "Antelope" for only $199 which includes "thousands of extra security featues".

The Windows security spokesperson would remind it's users of it's "continued focus on the security of is products" and to advise all users that while they are waiting for the scheduled patch in 26 days, they could  visit and follow the simple thirty-seven step workaround found in KB article "KB7621375122422" at Microsoft.com.
 
The only precedent we have as far as a non MS desktop OS being afected by viruses was Apple back when they still had a 15% marketrshare. If 15% markethshare is enough, then I would think 33% would be more than plenty.
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #21 on: 7 January 2006, 10:43 »
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Interesting turn of events - by using Linux, I am helping my mother's Windows computer become more secure.  More of you people need to switch to Linux - eventually, my mother will have a spyware-free environment.
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No, by switching your mothers computer to linux, it would be a spyware-free enviroment.
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #22 on: 7 January 2006, 12:11 »
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And then developers of spyware will switch to the linux platform amd then you have the same problems with linux that you had with windows...
Except it wouldn't be so bad because there would be less cracked boxes (less super-GNU/Linux-users browsing the web), and because there is a really really good firewall that some people/distros might make use of and because some people/distros might make use of SELinux to make sure Firefox can't write to/read from fuck all.
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #23 on: 10 January 2006, 04:08 »
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Except it wouldn't be so bad because there would be less cracked boxes (less super-GNU/Linux-users browsing the web), and because there is a really really good firewall that some people/distros might make use of and because some people/distros might make use of SELinux to make sure Firefox can't write to/read from fuck all.

... good point :thumbup:

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #24 on: 10 January 2006, 21:49 »
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No, by switching your mothers computer to linux, it would be a spyware-free enviroment.

Alas, my mother can barely handle Windows.  Linux would probably send her to an early grave.

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #25 on: 11 January 2006, 00:30 »
Two New Windows Metafile Bugs Found
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,124310,tk,dn011006X,00.asp
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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #26 on: 11 January 2006, 08:58 »
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Alas, my mother can barely handle Windows.  Linux would probably send her to an early grave.


lol!

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #27 on: 13 January 2006, 03:28 »
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lol!

linux is easier to learn, ask my mum ;)

it certainly is ... ask my grandma :D

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #28 on: 13 January 2006, 07:20 »
sorry but I cannot recall a time where windows ever did protect against viruses...

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Re: Windows users unprotected against viruses
« Reply #29 on: 13 January 2006, 21:23 »
^^true - Windows virus protection is provided by 3rd party companies - it has never been provided by Microsoft itself.  Which is strange.  Norton and McAfee make money off their subscriptions, and get to install all the spyware they want, since they can conveniently ignore themselves in their spyware searches.  This sounds like a lucrative business that Microsoft would want to get into.  But oddly, they never have.  Maybe because offering virus protection to their own insecure OS is bad PR.