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piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: cymon ---I've never used X.org, the 200 MHz computer I ran it on would take several weeks to compile it.
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I doubt that very much. I'd be surprised if it took more than a few days. It's not as huge as you'd think, and you more than likely wouldn't need half the stuff.

Why would you wanna compile Xorg anyhow? Why not get a binary?

X11 and it's client/server design, is one of the things I prefer in GNU/Linux over the way things are done in Windows.

worker201:
My understanding is that simply converting an X11 file to a Cocoa file would not be simple, unless there was a one-to-one widget scenario.  And even then, they access system resources differently.

I don't see what the complaint is.  X11 works just fine.  We all know that teh JimmyJames has a problem with X, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.

hm_murdock:
To "convert" apps to Cocoa, they'd have to be rewritten in Objective-C. At this point, you're totally rewriting the app. On top of that, X11 draws using bitmaps, while Quartz draws using PDF and PostScript. Raster vs. vector there. Yeah, that's not so hard to fix... but the Obj-C thing would require the whole thing be redone.

Most X11 apps are C++, so I guess it could be easier to rewrite for Carbon, as that's a C++ API. However...

Carbon carries a lot of legacy Macintosh baggage with it. It's the "modernized" version of the Mac Toolbox API, and therefore would require that certain bits be rewritten to interface with the API. Also, Carbon doesn't support certain things that aren't permitted in Mac OS 8.6/9.x as it was designed as a backward-compatible transition API.

In the end, the easiest and best way to run X11 apps is just to compile the thing for Darwin, and run it in X11 :)

As for my earlier statement, it's not so much a dig on X11, but a statement of the usefulness of it on OS X. There's a lot of good software out there that can be run... but... there's also an equal amount of good software that runs natively on OS X. That's all I'm saying in that regard. If you wanna use UNIX apps, just go with Linux or BSD. No need to spend the $$ on a Mac. Or dual-boot X and Linux!

themacuser:
Ummm, objective-C is a superset of regular C, and should be able to interoperate. Also, there's no reason why a standard C app couldn't call all the required libraries and everything for AppKit, to use the Cocoa technologies though.

You can port something to Cocoa without rewriting it in objective-C.

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