Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: Xeniczone on 27 February 2006, 02:00
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this is from a long time ago but...
Is it bad enough they can't build a reliable OS but they can't even build a game system correctly.
-Power supply over-heat: Many have said there xbox 360 stops after so long of play. This is because there exturnal Power supply over heats and there has been no recall for new ones. Sony in europe have done a recall on there faulty power supplys. Is it hard for microsoft to admit there is a mistake or do they just like users of there hard ware to suffer.
-Cd Scratching: I thought the time that dvd come out you wouldn't have to worry about the dvd player eating the dvds the same way VHS tapes did in a vcr. Well Microsoft proved me wrong. Some systems only do this when you move the system. Others do it just to piss you off like microsoft likes to do.
- Screen of death: Ok, we have all seen windows and it's blue screen of death. So what does microsoft do they put a black screen of death on the xbox. WTF This is the first game system to crash this isn't right.
Lets all say thanks to microsoft for ****ing up the game industry.
SCREW the xbox 360 i'm getting the playstation 3.
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SCREW the xbox 360 i'm getting the playstation 3.
Me too ... unfortunately, it will include DRM :( I'm not sure of the implications of the DRM on a game console though.
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Microsoft $ony and all corporations that act like these two
what is wrong with sony?
DRM
What do you mean by DRM what is it?
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I'm going for the revolution personally. Sounds novel.
The current forecasts of the PS3 being expensive and late are not good.
To be competitive with microsoft sony have needed just as much cost cutting.
I've never bought a console within 5years of its release anyway :P wait for it to be really cheap first
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what is wrong with sony?
What do you mean by DRM what is it?
It's a rootkit ... basically with it $ony owns your computer ... they know everything you do (or at least have that capability)
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
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Yeh I know what your talking about. it is the type of graphics used in movies.
Still what is wrong with sony why you hate them so much? If you think it is because there after money like microsoft your wrong because sony is from japan there are shipping and other charges that mess with the price of sony products in america. but microsoft is a american thing so there aren't anything except bill gates greed.
I've never bought a console within 5years of its release anyway :P wait for it to be really cheap first
You poor poor thing does this mean you just got a playstation 2.
I like sony personally. I mean once they make a system they dont stop making the system until it is smaller and better they have done it to 2 out of 2 systems can't wait to see ps3 mini. Nintendo I will never buy a nintendo there my enemy from the past. I was a SEGA boy in the past devoted to only sega and sonic never to that italian dude and his gay music that would send you to a mental institute listing to it all day.
Then I just plain hate microsoft. ME got mac :D
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Sony has done a lot of bad things in the last year.
They aren't getting any of my money.
Read.
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9536
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9820
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10008
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10121
Not to mention they patented a technique for tying game disks to the console they are first played on. Buy a disk, you can't let a friend use it when you are done. You can't sell it. You can't buy used games. Wonder what they are going to do with this patent?
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WTF This is the first game system to crash this isn't right
Heh, i've seen a Sega Genesis crash (maybe it was just the game, but the screen was blue, and there were hexadecimal white letters on it). I also remember that nice flashing black to red screen from the NES due to timing issues with that wonderful lock-out chip Nintendo used for the system.
because sony is from japan there are shipping and other charges that mess with the price of sony products in america.
That sounds sort of like propaganda put out by Sony. Will NO PS3s be built in an American plant (or one on our continent, at least e.g. Mexico) somewhere for sales here (you know, like Japanese car companies having factories here in the states)?
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I know but just because there here in the us doesn't mean japan can't tax everything that came out of there state.
i have never had my sega genesis crash the worst I've seen before xbox is the nes with a black screen if you start it up without a game. And the only way to fix it was to hit it multiple times until it read the game.
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I prefer things made in Japan ... cuz unlike shit made in the US ... it actually fucking works, and works well (usually). Sadly $ony has turned to the dark side, mostly due to improper management. I used to like $ony too, they make computers that last (heck the laptop I'm using right now is a $ony) ... too bad they turned so greedy and evil all of a sudden.
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The Xbox 360 is a better system then the Ps3(power wise)
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The Xbox 360 is a better system then the Ps3(power wise)
So what is it that you know about core that I haven't heard of?
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core? or do you mean cell? The graphics systems in the PS3 is weaker then that of the Xbox360 and IBM bearly knows how to program the cell yet, let alone sony
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core? or do you mean cell?
Whoops, I did.
I can't wait to see how cell does.
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WHOW WHOW WHOW!!!! HOLD UP!!!!
The Xbox 360 is a better system then the Ps3(power wise)
You think the ATI chip and the custom made IBM cpu inside of the Xbox 360 is better then the Cell chip and the Reality Sysithiser!!!!!
What have you been smoken, what ever it is give to me it has to be strong (joking)
The xbox 360 is still using texture mapping.
Playstation 3 is moved on to a much more complex system used in movies that looks to real to be true. Off course the ps3 still doesn't look as good as the movies because it can only do 2.13 trillaflops per second and a super computer render farm would put out about 36 trillaflops per second. But it is much better then the xbox graphics.
Another thing is the Sony,Toshiba,IBM Cell chip is almost twices as fast as the IBM chip in Xbox. Not by speed but other physics. Like the Cell has 7 cores(it has 8 but one is disabled for some reason) the Xbox only has 3 cores.
7 cores is like a core dedicated to each items of the game. One core for sound one for geomitrys one for programming one for the ps3 os etc.
Not to mention Ps3 use of br-rom with holds almost 10x a normal dvd like xbox uses.
Sony ps3 also has a high quality of definition I think 1280p can't remeber the exact number.
Bluetooth is much better then xbox wireless. there has been reports if you have 2 xbox 360's in the same room they will pick up the others controllor. and ps3 has 7wireless 1 wired (8 controllor support) xbox only has 4
problem with 8 controllor support is can you imagine a 13in tv split 8 times :O
but that is what DUAL SCREEN SUPPORT IS FOR!!! YEH YEH
I like the ps3 looks better then xbox360 when I first saw a xbox 360 I thought it looked really good. Then I saw it in person wow didn't look so good to me anymore. I dont know why but to me (if you look at it in person) the cd rom looks out of place or something I can't explain it.
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WHOW WHOW WHOW!!!! HOLD UP!!!!
You think the ATI chip and the custom made IBM cpu inside of the Xbox 360 is better then the Cell chip and the Reality Sysithiser!!!!!
What have you been smoken, what ever it is give to me it has to be strong (joking)
The xbox 360 is still using texture mapping.
Playstation 3 is moved on to a much more complex system used in movies that looks to real to be true. Off course the ps3 still doesn't look as good as the movies because it can only do 2.13 trillaflops per second and a super computer render farm would put out about 36 trillaflops per second. But it is much better then the xbox graphics.
Another thing is the Sony,Toshiba,IBM Cell chip is almost twices as fast as the IBM chip in Xbox. Not by speed but other physics. Like the Cell has 7 cores(it has 8 but one is disabled for some reason) the Xbox only has 3 cores.
7 cores is like a core dedicated to each items of the game. One core for sound one for geomitrys one for programming one for the ps3 os etc.
Not to mention Ps3 use of br-rom with holds almost 10x a normal dvd like xbox uses.
Sony ps3 also has a high quality of definition I think 1280p can't remeber the exact number.
Bluetooth is much better then xbox wireless. there has been reports if you have 2 xbox 360's in the same room they will pick up the others controllor. and ps3 has 7wireless 1 wired (8 controllor support) xbox only has 4
problem with 8 controllor support is can you imagine a 13in tv split 8 times :O
but that is what DUAL SCREEN SUPPORT IS FOR!!! YEH YEH
I like the ps3 looks better then xbox360 when I first saw a xbox 360 I thought it looked really good. Then I saw it in person wow didn't look so good to me anymore. I dont know why but to me (if you look at it in person) the cd rom looks out of place or something I can't explain it.
WRONG WRONG WRONG!
1.The cell is an 8 core CPU, BUT ITS NOT A TRUE 8 CORE CPU. Its 1 fully functional core with 7 "cippled" cores that can only do basic stuff
2. The reality sysnthesiser was in the PS2. If you think any of the PS3 games are going to look like that! YOU ARE MISTAKEN! THOSE ARE PRE-RENDERED IMAGES! PLUS IT HAS TO USE TEXTURE AND BUMP MAPPING TO HAVE MULTI PLATFORM GAMES!
3. The PS3's RSX(graphics proccessor) is a 7800GTX on 90nm. In case you havent noticed, nVidia is phasing out the 7800GTX. The xbox 360's r500 is a unified shader architecture wich allows more complex models and shaders to be used then a standard architecture like the RSX. And further more the r500 will be ATIs next desktop chip (r600).
4. IBM doesnt even know how to program the cell efficently yet.
5.The PS3 is already behind in graphics technology
The 7800GTX is already brought down to its knees at 1600x1200 on a single video feed. Do you honestly think it can drive two 1080p moniters! Even the devoplers for games for the PS3 said to achive respectable performence they would have to use 720p to.
The Blu-Ray dvd rom cant hold 80GB! It can only hold 50GB. plus right now Blue Ray drives are 3 TIMES SLOWER IN READ SPEED THEN DVDs! You would need a 3x Blu ray drive to equal the 12x drive in the xbox! That means multi platform games are gonna take 3x longer to load in the PS3!!! Once again Sony brings back wicked long load times!
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Screen of death: Ok, we have all seen windows and it's blue screen of death. So what does microsoft do they put a black screen of death on the xbox. WTF This is the first game system to crash this isn't right.
LOL it's rumoured there's a way to change the colour of the blue screen of death, I'd personally choose red for danger or even better brown for oh we're in the shit now. :D
EDIT:
Here's (http://www.petri.co.il/change_bsod_color.htm) how to change the screen of death colour.
Lets all say thanks to microsoft for fucking up the game industry.
fixed.
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If I was to buy another console, it would be either the PS3 or Revolution. I have the old XBOX, I like it. Looking at where DRM is going, I will be sticking with all my current stuff. Maybe my OS console will take off, who knows.
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LOL it's rumoured there's a way to change the colour of the blue screen of death, I'd personally choose red for danger or even better brown for oh we're in the shit now
odd how easy it is to mod windows over mac is that why there is so many viruses for it. lol
Sony has done a lot of bad things in the last year.
They aren't getting any of my money.
Read.
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9536 (http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9536)
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9820 (http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=9820)
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10008 (http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10008)
http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10121 (http://65.39.182.20/forums/showthread.php?t=10121)
Not to mention they patented a technique for tying game disks to the console they are first played on. Buy a disk, you can't let a friend use it when you are done. You can't sell it. You can't buy used games. Wonder what they are going to do with this patent?
Some of these aren't logical. I think they are doing a thing where once you put it in one console you can't put it in another. but how can they do this. it is a cd it can't be written to unless each cd is built into a case with a mini mem card. if this is so just remove the batt. from the mem and reset it so that it will work for other systems. or remove it all together.
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My brother got a 360. We don't have many games, I play fifa on multiplayer most (and EA topped themselves, they stress the fuck outta 360 (shitty framrates during videos)!). I'd prefer pro evo on our original chipped xbox anyday. If it didn't break, man, it would be the 360 sitting out in the corner.
Nintendo revolution all the way. I like the way nintendo go about this stuff (I don't want a 3ghz computer for playing games), I'd love to see the revo be a huge success. If pro evo never existed, I woulda had way more fun on the dreamcast and gamecube than any playstation or xbox. It's all about the games and how the hardware copes with them (if it just about copes it's usually better than coping ten times over, because the hardware wouldn't have cost as much).
Hell, I'd get a dreamcast (but I don't play games much...).
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My brother got a 360. We don't have many games, I play fifa on multiplayer most (and EA topped themselves, they stress the fuck outta 360 (shitty framrates during videos)!). I'd prefer pro evo on our original chipped xbox anyday. If it didn't break, man, it would be the 360 sitting out in the corner.
Nintendo revolution all the way. I like the way nintendo go about this stuff (I don't want a 3ghz computer for playing games), I'd love to see the revo be a huge success. If pro evo never existed, I woulda had way more fun on the dreamcast and gamecube than any playstation or xbox. It's all about the games and how the hardware copes with them (if it just about copes it's usually better than coping ten times over, because the hardware wouldn't have cost as much).
Hell, I'd get a dreamcast (but I don't play games much...).
EA cant make games for shit. They make shitty un-optomized games. I got around 25FPS with NFS:MW! when FEAR wich lookes 7x better gets 60FPS
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EA cant make games for shit. They make shitty un-optomized games. I got around 25FPS with NFS:MW! when FEAR wich lookes 7x better gets 60FPS
Yea, they're games are built to be marketed I think. They can say "look we have better graphics" with a still image of something nice, but the secret is that it runs slow as fuck. The gameplay isn't even all that great.
Pro evo, on the other hand... Is pretty darn good.
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Yea, they're games are built to be marketed I think. They can say "look we have better graphics" with a still image of something nice, but the secret is that it runs slow as fuck. The gameplay isn't even all that great.
Pro evo, on the other hand... If it was female, I would fuck it.
puhhleeze...you would hurt your self
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puhhleeze...you would hurt your self
You're right. Edited.
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EA cant make games for shit. They make shitty un-optomized games. I got around 25FPS with NFS:MW! when FEAR wich lookes 7x better gets 60FPS
wow that's odd I get 30fps on need for speed most wanted your computer sucks.
cause I know mine does. 2.2ghz pentium 4 with a nvidia geforce fx 5200.
doom 3 works fine for me too. hmmm... your computer is really screwed up.
The only game I have problems with is halo which runs at 18fps. Weird I dont have that problem on my mac with low frame in halo.?.?.?.
kinda odd... and EA doesn't make shity games they make some of the best games around. games list that is alsome from ea suchs as need for speed: MW, battlefeild 2, burnout.
A game I can't wait to see is MORTAL KOMBAT: next-gen on ps3 with that RS GRX chip wow that game is going to rock.
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Hmm. I hav x800 pro unlocked to 16 pipes, athlon 64 3000+ with 1GB ram. I get abnout 40fps on halo (its an un-optomized POS too), go into NFS:MW wanted settings and turn everything up to its max, like i did, and then see what you get.
EA makes some of the worst games. Like BF2, sure its fun, but they make you pay for expansion packs that are really updates and make you pay like $20 fora few extra maps and guns. NFS:MW is pretty lame to
PS: I get 60FPS on Doom 3 on ultra mode at 1024x768
PSS. What are you talking about? RSX is previous/current gen tech, not next gen. RSX=7800GTX WICH IS BEING PHASED OUT!
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Mortal Kombat is kinda getting real shitty. I played pretty much all Mortal Kombats ever made, and I can say that at least recently the shittyness has increased exponentially. Especially the very last release (or at least the last one I purchased) ... MK Deception. Nice graphics ... really shitty gameplay. It's also pretty much a clone of the one before that MK Deadly Alliance only they scrambled the fighting styles among the characters and added a few new and lame characters, oh yeah and the quasi-RPG mode (crappy also ... the plot is completely fucked). I think maybe they should stop mass production of Mortal Kombat and focus more on quality.
PS: ATI blows !
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Battlefields biggest weakness was that you couldn't play bots in a multiplayer game. It sucks without at least 20-40 players.
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EA cant make games for shit. They make shitty un-optomized games. I got around 25FPS with NFS:MW! when FEAR wich lookes 7x better gets 60FPS
Waaaaaahh. I only got better than cinema framerate... waaaaaaaaah. I only got a framerate high enough that the human mind interprets it as normal motion. Boo fucking hoo.
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If you really want framerate, play on 320x240 with every graphic setting on low. That ought to do the trick.
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what BF no multi :P
:p :P ;P :P
play BF2 on a pc :P
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2. The reality sysnthesiser was in the PS2. If you think any of the PS3 games are going to look like that! YOU ARE MISTAKEN! THOSE ARE PRE-RENDERED IMAGES! PLUS IT HAS TO USE TEXTURE AND BUMP MAPPING TO HAVE MULTI PLATFORM GAMES!
Accually this isn't ture. What you see is what you get. If you watch the killzone 2 game that is real-time. If you don't beleave me then I guess I will have to prove it to you. Just need to find it... i can't find it. it is on ign have a look i will give the link as soon as I find it.